StuckOnReserve

I took his comments of 70/ month as sarcasm since only 40/month are showing up for class.

The street captain concept isn't something that appealing someone who's already at a 121 carrier with a competitive upgrade time. It will be interesting to someone in who qualifies with military, 91K, or 135 time who wants to come over to 121 without starting out at YR1-FO Pay.

Did you really just clump Envoy into the same group of LCC's? Experienced pilots leaving for LCC's to fly mainline aircraft, absolutely. But Envoy in with that group, seriously? Same Pay ( when you add in EQO), same equipment, same destination, same job flying mainline passengers for regional pay. Who is going to leave for that? Envoys flow is 8yrs so that not a perk, and if you wander over to the Envoy forum they are disgruntled as you are. This is your exit strategy, not the vast majorities. You posted this as your plan when you got the Aviate TNBT

Cessna182TypeR

Not going to go back and fourth with you but plenty of regional carriers are getting DEC’s from other 121 carriers. Especially if a flow is involved with it. Guess time will tell if those other “pipelines” you mentioned will fill the DEC slots? We shall see.

You are correct, the high time FO’s and CA’s will bail for the LCC’s and other operators and those left not able to go there will fill other regionals with bases in the Northeast. Those who can compete with pay, a flow or other incentives will benefit.

You really believe people will long distance commute for an extended time at regional pay? Not from what I’m hearing..

Cessna182TypeR

SH company e-mail a couple months ago saying EWR, CLE and ORD possibly shrinking or closing with Go-Jet moving in with dual class aircraft and more flying “Southwest”.

CLE closing was already announced and DEN is “West” of IAH so... who really knows.

watch

The "nda protected" bad news still hasn't been released. No idea what it could be, if there even is something. Not sure what the point of bluffing would be by that guy, except maybe to get attention? However if he's credible and just wants to warn the pilot group, I wish it would leak out somehow.

StuckOnReserve

Nope, never said that.

I also never said that people wouldn't leave a 121 for a DEC opportunity. I said it wasn't appealing to someone at a carrier with a competitive upgrade time meaning 1000-1500 hrs. If someone is at an airline where upgrades are 3 years or further out, sure they are going to jump, or if making the jump significantly increases their quality of life.

I just said that Envoy wasn't a better option. just to do the same thing all because of 8 year flow, and I scoffed at the concept of considering them on par with a LCC.

Piedmont makes makes more sense, short commute down to PHL and there they are flowing twice as fast as Envoy.

Redheadtexas

It's more like 30 a month right now

ThisIsMe17

I’m a little confused about what is going on here. Could someone please explain?

I’m not at a regional but right now I’m interested in ExpressJet.

falconkidding

Nothings happening, lol take 90% of what you hear on APC with a huge grain of salt.

StuckOnReserve

Sibling rivalry between L-XJT and L-ASA pilots fighting over contract issues. A conversation from a Facebook pilots XJT group has spilled over onto APC because here we can share our opinions and hide behind anonymous screen names


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SeeYa

ORD and EWR are not gonna close dude