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Originally Posted by CantTaxiToACS
(Post 3021483)
I’m not really sure about details concerning scope and fee for departure airlines or whatever. Heck, I’m not even old enough to reminder what 9/11 was like to live through, and 2008 too. So this might be a dumb question about how all this works. But if United has stake in companies like XJT and C5, why would they let them die and let SkyWest, Mesa and Republic live on with 70+ seat UA flying? Wouldn’t they want those jets transferred over? Again, I have no idea how this works.
That’s the big money question. And the answer lies with the financial and accounting staff in the Willis Tower. If losing money on XJT and C5 means UAL has a better chance of survival going forward. They will cut XJT and C5 in a heartbeat. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by StuckOnReserve
(Post 3024737)
That’s the big money question. And the answer lies with the financial and accounting staff in the Willis Tower. If losing money on XJT and C5 means UAL has a better chance of survival going forward. They will cut XJT and C5 in a heartbeat.
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Originally Posted by Itsajob
(Post 3024823)
A big part of it is that SkyWest (I don’t know about Republic) owns the 175’s that they fly, where other airlines don’t. United can shuffle around the equipment that they own, but they can’t transfer something owned by another company. Rather than have to buy a bunch of replacement rj’s and cut SkyWest out, it’s most likely cheaper to pay them to fly. I don’t know how many 175’s that United owns, or who is flying them, but moving them to another company could be expensive. Unfortunately for the employees, an airline that only flys an airplane that is slated for retirement makes it a pre packaged entity that can easily be cut.
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Originally Posted by da42pilot
(Post 3024853)
I want to say 49. 25 that were given to us, and I think 24 that republic and Mesa split maybe 3 years ago. There may be more but off the top of my head that’s all I can think of.
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Originally Posted by Itsajob
(Post 3024465)
If the company files for bankruptcy, all bets are off and we’re all screwed. United would face years of stagnation and the regional pilots would be stuck there for a really long time. As far as the United pilots bending scope goes, I wouldn’t bet on it. This pilot group is a combination of senior guys who had years of stagnation, people who were furloughed (some twice) while the regionals expanded, and people who were stuck at a regionals for decades because of relaxing scope. Every United pilot that I have flown with would rather burn the place to the ground than weaken our scope language.
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Originally Posted by RAHkid94
(Post 3024976)
Everyone talks big until they’re facing the reality of standing in the unemployment line.
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Originally Posted by Itsajob
(Post 3025061)
I was simply stating the view on scope shared by the pilots at United, including the thousands facing furlough this fall. Personally, I’ve been furloughed, companies have tanked, and I very well may get furloughed again. I’d still rather take a furlough notice than give up scope.
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Originally Posted by SeeYa
(Post 3024695)
lol all about that girth
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Originally Posted by StuckOnReserve
(Post 3024688)
I agree the UAL likes the 550. But their are only 33 of them. Not enough to build a fleet. Cabin wise it’s the same width of tube as the 200, just longer. passengers don’t about length as much as they do girth. They would rather have a 737 or an A320.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Secondly, the cabin width is not the same. The fuselage diameter is the same on the outside, but Bombardier lowered the floor of the CRJ7’s/9 to creat additional shoulder room inside. So measuring off the same points on the seats, the cabin width is actually wider. |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 3023994)
Mainline pilots will fly 50 seaters if it comes to that. They'll even do it for less than you do if that what it takes to save scope.
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