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SeeYa 04-04-2020 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by Melit (Post 3023224)
Most likely half of what it is today. No merger’s as that has proved time and time again not to work. Hundred’s of airplanes in the Desert
Never to return

which will park first, CR2 or EMB145

StuckOnReserve 04-04-2020 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by SeeYa (Post 3023282)
which will park first, CR2 or EMB145

50% / 50% will be a balanced draw down. The question is who's CRJ2's and 145's get parked first.

piloto2 04-04-2020 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by Melit (Post 3023224)
Most likely half of what it is today. No merger’s as that has proved time and time again not to work. Hundred’s of airplanes in the Desert
Never to return

This dude doesn't even know how to use an apostrophe, yet he thinks he knows what will happen with all of this.

Cessna182TypeR 04-04-2020 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by piloto2 (Post 3023543)
This dude doesn't even know how to use an apostrophe, yet he thinks he knows what will happen with all of this.

It’s “Misery Loves Company” Melit. He’s an old, lonely sad sack that tries to make others miserable so he feels better...

The more he lashes out, the more unhappy he is. Poor little baby.

Grumpyaviator 04-04-2020 06:32 PM

Kirby is doing two things; setting the regionals up for whip-saw while he has a timely opportunity and positioning himself for scope talks with UAL ALPA. It’s his playbook a la Eagle.

Longhornmaniac8 04-04-2020 10:31 PM


Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator (Post 3023841)
Kirby is doing two things; setting the regionals up for whip-saw while he has a timely opportunity and positioning himself for scope talks with UAL ALPA. It’s his playbook a la Eagle.

As a pilot at another UAX regional, I would love for this to be true, because it would mean, essentially, status quo.

Sadly, I think those sorts of games aren't on the table right now. Everyone, including Kirby, is in survival mode only at this point.

There's a time and a place for whip-saw tactics and union-busting, but I'm extremely skeptical anyone at any level is worried about much of anything except the veritable millions of dollars they are losing each DAY. He's not trying to figure out how to screw over one regional or another, he's trying to figure out how to not go broke.

dera 04-05-2020 12:51 AM


Originally Posted by Longhornmaniac8 (Post 3023950)
As a pilot at another UAX regional, I would love for this to be true, because it would mean, essentially, status quo.

Sadly, I think those sorts of games aren't on the table right now. Everyone, including Kirby, is in survival mode only at this point.

There's a time and a place for whip-saw tactics and union-busting, but I'm extremely skeptical anyone at any level is worried about much of anything except the veritable millions of dollars they are losing each DAY. He's not trying to figure out how to screw over one regional or another, he's trying to figure out how to not go broke.

Word.

Tin foil hat guys are thinking management has some sort of grand master plan to play with scope right now. That is nowhere near their top priorities right now. Managing this crunch, and especially dealing with the recovery is.

rickair7777 04-05-2020 03:23 AM


Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator (Post 3023841)
Kirby is doing two things; setting the regionals up for whip-saw while he has a timely opportunity and positioning himself for scope talks with UAL ALPA. It’s his playbook a la Eagle.

Mainline pilots will fly 50 seaters if it comes to that. They'll even do it for less than you do if that what it takes to save scope.

itsmytime 04-05-2020 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3023994)
They'll even do it for less than you do if that what it takes to save scope.

LOL! Yeah right. To be clear I’m only talking about the less pay than regional pilots part.

Itsajob 04-05-2020 05:54 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3023994)
Mainline pilots will fly 50 seaters if it comes to that. They'll even do it for less than you do if that what it takes to save scope.

United pilots will allow a furlough before scope is relaxed, but I doubt that we’d vote to fly 50 seaters for that kind of pay. Those things have been living on borrowed time anyway. They are old, there is no replacement, and the customers don’t like them. If United pilots allowed more E175’s there would already be far less 50 seaters in the UAX fleet, but that isn’t the case. This deal simply accelerated the timeline.


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