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Old 04-12-2020, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by TFAYD View Post
In all fairness, EMB120 flying wasn’t phased out at SKYW until 2015. Allegedly because MX became an issue - getting a reliable supply of parts - not because PAX hated them.
at the end of the day, I don’t whether passengers like an airframe or not plays a big of a role as a lot
of people think. People care about price and schedule first
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Old 04-12-2020, 09:55 AM
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UA invested in C5 because they wanted to save their 145 flying as SKYW was winding down XJT. Once it became clear that C5 couldn’t pull it off they had to buy XJT to rescue the 50 seat feed and to have some BATNA in future negotiations with other regionals.

That is all a non issue. I would assume they will keep whatever 50 seat flying they end up keeping with XJT but there is no need to consolidate anything.
It should be interesting to watch how this plays out. Why do you assume that 50 seat flying will stay with XJT instead of keeping the 50 seat flying that is currently being flown by SkyWest? Both companies seem to do a good job. I’d agree that there is no need to consolidate. There will be casualties on the regional side as the 50 seat fleet is reduced, just as there will be on the legacy side as the 756 suffers the same fate.
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Old 04-12-2020, 10:12 AM
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It should be interesting to watch how this plays out. Why do you assume that 50 seat flying will stay with XJT instead of keeping the 50 seat flying that is currently being flown by SkyWest? Both companies seem to do a good job. I’d agree that there is no need to consolidate. There will be casualties on the regional side as the 50 seat fleet is reduced, just as there will be on the legacy side as the 756 suffers the same fate.
Scope will be renegotiated with a UA bankruptcy or under current market conditions. ExpressJet is here to stay in either scenario. XJT will not be limited to 50 seat flying in the future.
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Old 04-12-2020, 11:21 AM
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If we are talking about possible future scenaros post Covid19, I would see only XJT and C5 as the 50 seat operators for United.

Chicago and Denver would go to XJT and EWR/IAD to C5. XJT had it's focus shifted West with the demise of TSA and I can't see that changing. I also can't see anything bigger than a 50 seater for most of the flying outa EWR and IAD.

The fact that United have ownership stakes in both these operators also plays a major part in this theory.
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Old 04-12-2020, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by RJpilot1 View Post
Scope will be renegotiated with a UA bankruptcy or under current market conditions. ExpressJet is here to stay in either scenario. XJT will not be limited to 50 seat flying in the future.
I have a hard time seeing scope relaxed
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Old 04-12-2020, 12:25 PM
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If we are talking about possible future scenaros post Covid19, I would see only XJT and C5 as the 50 seat operators for United.

Chicago and Denver would go to XJT and EWR/IAD to C5. XJT had it's focus shifted West with the demise of TSA and I can't see that changing. I also can't see anything bigger than a 50 seater for most of the flying outa EWR and IAD.

The fact that United have ownership stakes in both these operators also plays a major part in this theory.

Soooooo IAH?
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Old 04-12-2020, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by RJpilot1 View Post
Scope will be renegotiated with a UA bankruptcy or under current market conditions. ExpressJet is here to stay in either scenario. XJT will not be limited to 50 seat flying in the future.
exactly what I’ve been trying to say. XJT will survive. Not saying they will be flying 50 seaters, but they will be flying something.
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Old 04-12-2020, 12:45 PM
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The fact that United have ownership stakes in both these operators also plays a major part in this theory.
agreed. Ownership is no minor thing in this instance.
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Old 04-12-2020, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by climb150 View Post
If we are talking about possible future scenaros post Covid19, I would see only XJT and C5 as the 50 seat operators for United.

Chicago and Denver would go to XJT and EWR/IAD to C5. XJT had it's focus shifted West with the demise of TSA and I can't see that changing. I also can't see anything bigger than a 50 seater for most of the flying outa EWR and IAD.

The fact that United have ownership stakes in both these operators also plays a major part in this theory.
there will only be dual class flying in EWR going forward. 550 yes - 145 no.
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Originally Posted by Itsajob View Post
It should be interesting to watch how this plays out. Why do you assume that 50 seat flying will stay with XJT instead of keeping the 50 seat flying that is currently being flown by SkyWest? Both companies seem to do a good job. I’d agree that there is no need to consolidate. There will be casualties on the regional side as the 50 seat fleet is reduced, just as there will be on the legacy side as the 756 suffers the same fate.
UA owns the airframes. I assume that it will be more cost effective to have XJT operate those. SKYW will retain some EAS stuff in DEN and out west. Maybe some pro-rate things but everything East of the Mississippi is likely gonna be XJT.
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