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04-26-2020 | 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BRJPilot

Two separate things. The company believes that downgrading someone isn't a pay rate change. They can't do that across the board and they can't furlough at this point, but they are trying to save some money short term by effectively reducing the rate for some employees.

so do you think more than half the pilots only getting min guarantee with no chance at making more money a pay reduction too?

04-26-2020 | 09:11 AM

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so do you think more than half the pilots only getting min guarantee with no chance at making more money a pay reduction too?

It's always been that way at XJT for reserve pilots. Almost impossible to pick up extra trips. Line holders still have the opportunity to pick up open time or bump reserves off assigned trips and pick up extra flying. And there are a lot of trips in open time right now!

04-26-2020 | 09:28 AM

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What happened to "full pay to the last day"?!

Fine. Burn it down.

04-26-2020 | 10:15 AM

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Fine. Burn it down.

There won't be a fire until after September as it stands now. Either way, can you show me a case where saving a company money saved jobs in the long run?

04-26-2020 | 10:25 AM

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pay rates are still the exact same, what changes is position. Per the cares act they have paid captains “x” and FOs “y” nothing in the cares act says people have to keep current position. They just have to stay on the payroll as a pilot which could be either x or y

04-26-2020 | 10:39 AM

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I think it's a grey area, weak language which is not surprising since it was a rush job. Your interpretation would be the company's, but unions would disagree, and congress (the house anyway) might agree with the unions.

04-26-2020 | 10:41 AM

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Does changing someone's position not also by default change someone's pay rate?

04-26-2020 | 10:44 AM

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I think it's a grey area, weak language which is not surprising since it was a rush job. Your interpretation would be the company's, but unions would disagree, and congress (the house anyway) might agree with the unions.

Not the union here! They will glady go along with the company on this if they think it would mean keeping their jobs.

04-26-2020 | 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Itsajob

A bunch of pilots from every airline in the country are going to be on the street unless demand miraculously returns in the next 6 months.

ExpressJet is setup for success to weather the storm. Furloughs are unlikely on our side due to the projected demand pickup by fall that will be able to fill our planes, but not 175s, 737s, etc.

04-26-2020 | 12:09 PM

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ExpressJet is setup for success to weather the storm. Furloughs are unlikely on our side due to the projected demand pickup by fall that will be able to fill our planes, but not 175s, 737s, etc.

Im sorry I had a good laugh at this one. So your argument that XJT will not have furloughs and is primed to survive is bc they fly 50 seaters over bigger planes??? I would explain why this is a dumb stance but I feel like I would be wasting my breath. Come Oct 1 everyone will be hurting and will be affected by this.