CARES Act End Run
#31
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Im sorry I had a good laugh at this one. So your argument that XJT will not have furloughs and is primed to survive is bc they fly 50 seaters over bigger planes??? I would explain why this is a dumb stance but I feel like I would be wasting my breath. Come Oct 1 everyone will be hurting and will be affected by this.
#32
Kirby said he MIGHT park the 756 fleet and did it.....he said he doesn’t see a path forward for the 50 seat jet(for the recordDL said the same thing in their earnings call).....I would believe him. Some 50s will live but who will fly them? SkyWest has at risk flying which brings economy of scale
#33
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come on man......if anything you said was true then ALL that would be flying the month of May and June would be 50 seat jets. Time for a reality check your job is in just as much if not more in danger than everyone else’s.
Kirby said he MIGHT park the 756 fleet and did it.....he said he doesn’t see a path forward for the 50 seat jet(for the recordDL said the same thing in their earnings call).....I would believe him. Some 50s will live but who will fly them? SkyWest has at risk flying which brings economy of scale
Kirby said he MIGHT park the 756 fleet and did it.....he said he doesn’t see a path forward for the 50 seat jet(for the recordDL said the same thing in their earnings call).....I would believe him. Some 50s will live but who will fly them? SkyWest has at risk flying which brings economy of scale
#34
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come on man......if anything you said was true then ALL that would be flying the month of May and June would be 50 seat jets. Time for a reality check your job is in just as much if not more in danger than everyone else’s.
Kirby said he MIGHT park the 756 fleet and did it.....he said he doesn’t see a path forward for the 50 seat jet(for the recordDL said the same thing in their earnings call).....I would believe him. Some 50s will live but who will fly them? SkyWest has at risk flying which brings economy of scale
Kirby said he MIGHT park the 756 fleet and did it.....he said he doesn’t see a path forward for the 50 seat jet(for the recordDL said the same thing in their earnings call).....I would believe him. Some 50s will live but who will fly them? SkyWest has at risk flying which brings economy of scale
The fact of the matter is nobody is flying in April, May and part of June. The 50 seaters don’t even carry 20 people right now.
Come late May and early June that should hopefully change.
Thing is nobody knows and worrying about it doesn’t help anything. Enjoy the summer and limit your consumption of this website like many should be doing with the old bottle (know it’s difficult).
#35
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Compared to other regionals, XJT made significant cost reductions to reduce risk, i.e. ending the 175 flying and transferred that risk to SkyWest. The CRJ200s will be eliminated. The ERJs have another 10 years of lifespan. We are in a great position to due to our size—not too big and not too small. Larger regionals and majors will see the most pain in downsizing. We downsized in the good times, but now I anticipate we will end up with more opportunities in the months and years ahead.
These 145’s can’t go another 10 yrs. The XR’s maybe have 4-5 yrs.
#36
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Compared to other regionals, XJT made significant cost reductions to reduce risk, i.e. ending the 175 flying and transferred that risk to SkyWest. The CRJ200s will be eliminated. The ERJs have another 10 years of lifespan. We are in a great position to due to our size—not too big and not too small. Larger regionals and majors will see the most pain in downsizing. We downsized in the good times, but now I anticipate we will end up with more opportunities in the months and years ahead.
The 175’s leaving was done “pre-covid”..... and only flying 25 after Mesa ink’ed a deal make a XJT 175 operation unfeasible... Everyone one the 50 seat side will hurt...
#38
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Compared to other regionals, XJT made significant cost reductions to reduce risk, i.e. ending the 175 flying and transferred that risk to SkyWest. The CRJ200s will be eliminated. The ERJs have another 10 years of lifespan. We are in a great position to due to our size—not too big and not too small. Larger regionals and majors will see the most pain in downsizing. We downsized in the good times, but now I anticipate we will end up with more opportunities in the months and years ahead.
1. The pilot groups of the Big 3 learned from 08’ and made sure a % of flying remained in house. Its upwards of over 70%. It why you see A320s flying to Midland. (So there goes your argument saying your going to steal flying from mainline)
2. When you compare the 145 to the 175 the 145 losses in every category. Distance, Cargo, Seats, pax approval, and maintenance cost, all while having almost an identical breakeven point.
3. (Most Importantly of All) The guy who owns a majority stake in your company has already said TWICE there is no future for 50 seaters and the fleet will be reduced when this is over.
Now in saying all this, I would like to believe that there is a future for XJT and a niche that has to be met with 50 seaters. And 145 trumps the 200. But to say things as dumb as you wont see furloughs or are in a better position then anyone it outlandish. How about worrying about whether you’re getting the Cares Act first and how possible downgrading people might be a disqualification if there is a reduction in pay.
#39
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Compared to other regionals, XJT made significant cost reductions to reduce risk, i.e. ending the 175 flying and transferred that risk to SkyWest. The CRJ200s will be eliminated. The ERJs have another 10 years of lifespan. We are in a great position to due to our size—not too big and not too small. Larger regionals and majors will see the most pain in downsizing. We downsized in the good times, but now I anticipate we will end up with more opportunities in the months and years ahead.
#40
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There are many things flawed with your argument...
1. The pilot groups of the Big 3 learned from 08’ and made sure a % of flying remained in house. Its upwards of over 70%. It why you see A320s flying to Midland. (So there goes your argument saying your going to steal flying from mainline)
2. When you compare the 145 to the 175 the 145 losses in every category. Distance, Cargo, Seats, pax approval, and maintenance cost, all while having almost an identical breakeven point.
3. (Most Importantly of All) The guy who owns a majority stake in your company has already said TWICE there is no future for 50 seaters and the fleet will be reduced when this is over.
Now in saying all this, I would like to believe that there is a future for XJT and a niche that has to be met with 50 seaters. And 145 trumps the 200. But to say things as dumb as you wont see furloughs or are in a better position then anyone it outlandish. How about worrying about whether you’re getting the Cares Act first and how possible downgrading people might be a disqualification if there is a reduction in pay.
1. The pilot groups of the Big 3 learned from 08’ and made sure a % of flying remained in house. Its upwards of over 70%. It why you see A320s flying to Midland. (So there goes your argument saying your going to steal flying from mainline)
2. When you compare the 145 to the 175 the 145 losses in every category. Distance, Cargo, Seats, pax approval, and maintenance cost, all while having almost an identical breakeven point.
3. (Most Importantly of All) The guy who owns a majority stake in your company has already said TWICE there is no future for 50 seaters and the fleet will be reduced when this is over.
Now in saying all this, I would like to believe that there is a future for XJT and a niche that has to be met with 50 seaters. And 145 trumps the 200. But to say things as dumb as you wont see furloughs or are in a better position then anyone it outlandish. How about worrying about whether you’re getting the Cares Act first and how possible downgrading people might be a disqualification if there is a reduction in pay.
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