CARES Act End Run
04-27-2020 | 02:31 PM
#71
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04-27-2020 | 02:53 PM
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He nor anyone else is hoping XJT closes. If you bothered to read his statements he mentions that. But, you came out selling **** as if it was gold without any sources or facts. You came out making outrageous claims that the 50 seater will outperform every other aircraft during this downturn. So, how about you stop channeling your inner Nostradamus and add something to the conversation instead of getting your feeling hurt and being as defensive as a 15yo girl when people point out where your argument is flawed.
04-27-2020 | 03:05 PM
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well it depends if you think mil aught to cut in front of the line or not...that’s a value judgement apart from the issue of a common list.
If you think they should, the entry point could be determined.
If you think they shouldn’t, they enter with everyone else.
If you think the size of the industry is much smaller post-COVID,the Cessna folks might not get in the door at all.
None of this really argues for or against a common list — just implementation details.
If you think they should, the entry point could be determined.
If you think they shouldn’t, they enter with everyone else.
If you think the size of the industry is much smaller post-COVID,the Cessna folks might not get in the door at all.
None of this really argues for or against a common list — just implementation details.
04-27-2020 | 03:25 PM
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The line cutting argument is why a brand seniority list wouldn’t work. The military pilot serves for 15-20 years, multiple long deployments, hazardous conditions, massive amounts of training and leadership development. The civilian pilot starts the same time at a regional airline, receives good training, and builds the necessary experience to start at the legacy. They both took different paths to get to the same point, a new hire class at a legacy. The military pilot isn’t cutting in line, and the civilian pilot didn’t take the easy route. Requiring military pilots to start at the bottom of the regional ranks after serving a 20 year career would be unacceptable.
Not that they aren’t an important detail...but it’s a detail to be worked out not an argument for or against the idea (kind of like the issues of legacy children or experienced expat captains or 135/ACMI legacy hires). All could be dealt with in favorable or unfavorable ways if the overall sentiments were to enact a common list.
04-27-2020 | 04:27 PM
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04-27-2020 | 05:35 PM
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The line cutting argument is why a brand seniority list wouldn’t work. The military pilot serves for 15-20 years, multiple long deployments, hazardous conditions, massive amounts of training and leadership development. The civilian pilot starts the same time at a regional airline, receives good training, and builds the necessary experience to start at the legacy. They both took different paths to get to the same point, a new hire class at a legacy. The military pilot isn’t cutting in line, and the civilian pilot didn’t take the easy route. Requiring military pilots to start at the bottom of the regional ranks after serving a 20 year career would be unacceptable.
04-27-2020 | 05:56 PM
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Anyone who served my country can get in front of me any time. There is no amount of money that can repay them for the service they have given. They can have my slot anytime.
04-27-2020 | 05:59 PM
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That’s a big part of why we have the system that we do today. When they leave the military, they go to the bottom of a legacy, when a regional pilot leaves brand X express, they also go to the bottom of a legacy. Military pilots aren’t going to serve their country for 20 years and then go start at the bottom of a regional list with people straight out of a Cessna flight school. They’ve done their time just like the senior regional captain. They go straight to a legacy.
04-27-2020 | 06:51 PM
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How long have you been at Xjet? I will bet that Read knows more then you give him credit. He(we) lived thru some of the best and absolute worse times at Xjet. Furloughs, downgrades, shrinking, SKY, the ASA merger and more.
04-27-2020 | 07:42 PM
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pay “airlinepilot50” no mind. Besides.....he makes $300k a year with his side hustle, remember?
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