CARES Act End Run
04-27-2020, 02:31 PM
#71
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Originally Posted by ReadOnly7
Flight 296. Airbus 319. You are wrong.
As for the October 1st comment......classy.
(did you get tired of your “airlinepilot50” username?)
As for the October 1st comment......classy.
(did you get tired of your “airlinepilot50” username?)
04-27-2020, 02:53 PM
#72
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Posts: 220
Originally Posted by RJpilot1
Our pilot group will make sure we survive this downturn —a disappointment to you and Itsapilot (username) hoping we shutdown.
04-27-2020, 03:05 PM
#73
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Originally Posted by flightlessbirds
well it depends if you think mil aught to cut in front of the line or not...that’s a value judgement apart from the issue of a common list.
If you think they should, the entry point could be determined.
If you think they shouldn’t, they enter with everyone else.
If you think the size of the industry is much smaller post-COVID,the Cessna folks might not get in the door at all.
None of this really argues for or against a common list — just implementation details.
If you think they should, the entry point could be determined.
If you think they shouldn’t, they enter with everyone else.
If you think the size of the industry is much smaller post-COVID,the Cessna folks might not get in the door at all.
None of this really argues for or against a common list — just implementation details.
04-27-2020, 03:25 PM
#74
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Posts: 241
Originally Posted by Itsajob
The line cutting argument is why a brand seniority list wouldn’t work. The military pilot serves for 15-20 years, multiple long deployments, hazardous conditions, massive amounts of training and leadership development. The civilian pilot starts the same time at a regional airline, receives good training, and builds the necessary experience to start at the legacy. They both took different paths to get to the same point, a new hire class at a legacy. The military pilot isn’t cutting in line, and the civilian pilot didn’t take the easy route. Requiring military pilots to start at the bottom of the regional ranks after serving a 20 year career would be unacceptable.
Not that they aren’t an important detail...but it’s a detail to be worked out not an argument for or against the idea (kind of like the issues of legacy children or experienced expat captains or 135/ACMI legacy hires). All could be dealt with in favorable or unfavorable ways if the overall sentiments were to enact a common list.
04-27-2020, 04:27 PM
#75
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Originally Posted by CaseTractor
Whoever has the dumpster fire gif animation handy would do well to post it again to keep up the tradition
04-27-2020, 05:35 PM
#76
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Posts: 135
Originally Posted by Itsajob
The line cutting argument is why a brand seniority list wouldn’t work. The military pilot serves for 15-20 years, multiple long deployments, hazardous conditions, massive amounts of training and leadership development. The civilian pilot starts the same time at a regional airline, receives good training, and builds the necessary experience to start at the legacy. They both took different paths to get to the same point, a new hire class at a legacy. The military pilot isn’t cutting in line, and the civilian pilot didn’t take the easy route. Requiring military pilots to start at the bottom of the regional ranks after serving a 20 year career would be unacceptable.
04-27-2020, 05:56 PM
#77
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Posts: 212
Originally Posted by UnitedExpress
Military pilots should start at the bottom. It’s a second career for them and most have a retirement already. If I leave my job for any other flying job I would start at the bottom.
04-27-2020, 05:59 PM
#78
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Originally Posted by UnitedExpress
Military pilots should start at the bottom. It’s a second career for them and most have a retirement already. If I leave my job for any other flying job I would start at the bottom.
04-27-2020, 06:51 PM
#79
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Originally Posted by RJpilot1
Our pilot group will make sure we survive this downturn —a disappointment to you and Itsapilot (username) hoping we shutdown.
How long have you been at Xjet? I will bet that Read knows more then you give him credit. He(we) lived thru some of the best and absolute worse times at Xjet. Furloughs, downgrades, shrinking, SKY, the ASA merger and more.
04-27-2020, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by flynd94
How long have you been at Xjet? I will bet that Read knows more then you give him credit. He(we) lived thru some of the best and absolute worse times at Xjet. Furloughs, downgrades, shrinking, SKY, the ASA merger and more.
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