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Old 01-15-2016 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by atrdriver
Damn, someone is a bit optimistic. Anything CLOSE to inflation/cost of living increases will surprise the hell out of me. I don't think this no vote will be as overwhelming as the last, but I guarantee neither ALPA nor the company have learned from their mistakes.
Hope you are wrong.
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Old 01-16-2016 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
Hope you are wrong.
Me too. No reason to come here when Endeavor is paying $52k. We need something to keep FO's here, not just to get them in the door.
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Old 01-16-2016 | 07:24 AM
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Endeavor pay is $50K first year, $52.7K 2nd year, $56.3 third year. Assuming you make CA in your third year, your pay will go to $56.7K.

Originally Posted by ThreeStripe
Me too. No reason to come here when Endeavor is paying $52k. We need something to keep FO's here, not just to get them in the door.
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Old 01-17-2016 | 12:25 PM
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DFW chief pilot said he's getting 1 2-week notice per day. Whole company is 8/day this month so far!!!
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Old 01-17-2016 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Bassman1985
I'm hoping for something along those lines as well. Given the pay and perks many other regionals are now offering, mgmt kinda has to show us the money. Otherwise many more will leave and nobody will come in to replace us. This is pretty much their last shot at convincing me not to bail.


Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
If we don't get at least $40/hr first year pay, we'll be shooting ourselves in the foot as far as being able to attract new pilots. I personally think $40/hr plus 30% for FO's and 20% for CA is reasonable. That would still put us below Delta's rates on the CRJ 900, but would be very meaningful as far as creating a place people want to come and work. Won't happen, but I think it's reasonable.


Originally Posted by wmupilot85
I wouldn't put your hopes up past 4% on the high end. I would LOVE to have 30% though.


Originally Posted by Check Complete
My bet it's less than 2% and some meaningless 401K increase and maybe a performance bonus.


Originally Posted by ThreeStripe
Me too. No reason to come here when Endeavor is paying $52k. We need something to keep FO's here, not just to get them in the door.

If management thinks that any and all these things will attract any more pilots that weren't already thinking of coming here (bases), then they are delusional! Why would a pilot choose this place when others are offering high first year pay, bonuses, growth (fast upgrade), flows, commuter hotels, or combination of more than one of those things?!

Unless they offer One List (won't happen), I'll be surprised if they pull this place out of the spiral dive they put it in. I think they are just managing an orderly wind down at this point. That's what you do in that situation, throw money at employees to keep them there to the last day, which they won't disclose until the last possible nanosecond.
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Old 01-18-2016 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by SiShane
Well blast emails from company and union finally didn't contradict each other and seemed positive. Hopefully we got something look at and vote on soon. I'm hearing RUMOR of $40/hr 1st year pay. Anyone else hearing anything?
I have heard $40/hr for first year and $1.50/hr raise across the board for everyone else. That equates to only 4.2% for second year 50 seat CRJ and proportionally less for everyone else above.

Just rumors though.
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Old 01-18-2016 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Mach Indicator
I have heard $40/hr for first year and $1.50/hr raise across the board for everyone else. That equates to only 4.2% for second year 50 seat CRJ and proportionally less for everyone else above.

Just rumors though.

Not saying you're wrong but I wouldn't give those much merit.. That would make second year 38.00$ and 3rd year 40$ to match 1st year if what's on the APC profile is true. I'm gonna just hold my breath and see what shakes out.
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Old 01-18-2016 | 03:56 PM
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As I've always said, money is meaningless, we need a seat at the flight attendant hiring table and a flow for them as well...that would make things ok.
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Old 01-18-2016 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Beast
As I've always said, money is meaningless, we need a seat at the flight attendant hiring table and a flow for them as well...that would make things ok.
Originally Posted by Hangrew
Not saying you're wrong but I wouldn't give those much merit.. That would make second year 38.00$ and 3rd year 40$ to match 1st year if what's on the APC profile is true. I'm gonna just hold my breath and see what shakes out.
I don't think i've ever seen a bigger margin between win and fail as I see between these two consecutive posts.
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Old 01-18-2016 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by hemaybedid
I don't think i've ever seen a bigger margin between win and fail as I see between these two consecutive posts.
Where's the fail? I agree with the win, but my post showed the math in what it quoted wouldn't shake out, no more no less... Can't be mad at what we haven't seen... You can be mad that you haven't seen it maybe...?
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