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10-23-2016 | 11:05 AM
#141
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Delta would have to buy XJT. I'd bet on Delta just moving flying from XJT to 9E versus another merger, especially when one of the companies is really just getting over a messy merger of 3 into 1
10-23-2016 | 11:22 AM
#142
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10-23-2016 | 05:03 PM
#146
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I would love for things to get better at XJT. Believe me. They were the airline I really wanted to go to until I had FOs and CAs there tell me to stay away. So stating that they have 9 year FOs makes me the bad guy? In what universe? I just state the truth and reality of the situation and I'm called a tool? Wow. Seriously you must be a recruiter because the whole point of this forum is to talk about what actually is happening at the airline, hopefully to steer people in the right direction.
10-23-2016 | 06:42 PM
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I'm getting the feeling that they'd rather divest themselves from Express Jet. I don't think it worked out the way they hoped it would. Every thing new seems to go to the non union side and they are slowly shrinking both sides of Express Jet. Interesting times ahead for sure
10-23-2016 | 06:50 PM
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I'm getting the feeling that they'd rather divest themselves from Express Jet. I don't think it worked out the way they hoped it would. Every thing new seems to go to the non union side and they are slowly shrinking both sides of Express Jet. Interesting times ahead for sure
10-23-2016 | 07:21 PM
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At AA, the president did fight for the staff or try to pull a trigger to invest in empoyees & increase wages. That is "President" who was at AA departed AA (let go by the Board of Directors) and is now the new President at UA.
Once he left AA, Robert Isom (new President) future AA CEO, opened the purses which the WO are now benefiting from.
Don't be short sighted in this industry. Research what DL did to Comair & almost did to Pinnacle.Air Wisconsin was a top tier regional. Potentially going under. Express jet was a top regional, potentially going under.
Just recommending you not be short sighted.
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10-23-2016 | 07:48 PM
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PSA, not let them fail??? Braniff, Eastern, Pan Am, TWA. The darlings of deregulation: Air Florida, America West, Midway. ALL GONE! The government will let them fail and Sept 11 was a one off to save jobs. The truth is AA, DAL, UA, AWA and USA were all in big trouble after Sept 11 and any or all of them could have shut down. Some would say they should have to save those that were stronger but that's more opinion. Dinosaurs were chosen for extinction (see the great statement by Jeff Goldbloom in Jurassic park).
I would say that their is a shortage of perhaps those applying for licenses but that can always be taken care of, as it is now, by expats. South Africans and Australians in particular. Thousands would line up for the "American dream. It's a lot safer and cheaper to live in the USA.
The regionals are offering better deals by now for sure. It was as not all that long ago where you had to pay 10,000$ to fly a Beech 1900 at Commutair and all the other regionals for that matter. The flows are great but that's been a long time coming.
The promises of flows and all those bonuses can be taken away anytime.
Sorry to be Debby Downer but I have watched this rodeo for many many years and eventually it goes down hill. Watching all the poor Eastern guys trying to find work in 90/91 was really sad.
I think a lot of the young guys and gals today from the military and the regionals or 135 might not know the history of the airline industry. Like the Kennedy's, interesting and great history but lots and lots of skeletons that were often swept under the rug.
Most of the airlines could care less about you and will dump you on the street, cut your pay and take your pension anytime they want. All these great deals or contracts still have force mejure in them!
Second rant finished.
I would say that their is a shortage of perhaps those applying for licenses but that can always be taken care of, as it is now, by expats. South Africans and Australians in particular. Thousands would line up for the "American dream. It's a lot safer and cheaper to live in the USA.
The regionals are offering better deals by now for sure. It was as not all that long ago where you had to pay 10,000$ to fly a Beech 1900 at Commutair and all the other regionals for that matter. The flows are great but that's been a long time coming.
The promises of flows and all those bonuses can be taken away anytime.
Sorry to be Debby Downer but I have watched this rodeo for many many years and eventually it goes down hill. Watching all the poor Eastern guys trying to find work in 90/91 was really sad.
I think a lot of the young guys and gals today from the military and the regionals or 135 might not know the history of the airline industry. Like the Kennedy's, interesting and great history but lots and lots of skeletons that were often swept under the rug.
Most of the airlines could care less about you and will dump you on the street, cut your pay and take your pension anytime they want. All these great deals or contracts still have force mejure in them!
Second rant finished.
THE AIRLINE BUSINESS MODEL OF THE PAST HAS CHANGED. NOT ONLY IS THERE LESS COMPETITON, BUT THE MAJORS HAVE FOUND A WAY TO MAKE MORE MONEY. OPERATE A MORE FUEL EFFICIENT OPERATION, ROUTES, PROCEDURE, NEXTGEN, etc...THEY WILL NOT GO BROKE and Bankrupt AS easily THEY DID IN THE PAST. SOME MAJOR EVENT OR CATASTROPHES MUST OCCURE.
THIS IS NOT YOUR 1990's Airline. More efficient airplanes & profits.
They can handle higher fuel prices also. Capacity control is a great tool being utilized, better fair pricing, using smarter algorithms.
THIS INDUSTRY IS DIFFERENT. NOT THE EARLY 2000s Majors or industry either.
Don't be fooled. They will be making money for a long time, baring Global meltdown, catastrophe, and harmful domestic regulation.
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