ExpressJet
10-22-2016, 06:17 PM
#121
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Posts: 117
Originally Posted by idlethrust
I heard that the big selling point of their recruiters is the notion that XJT sends more pilots to the majors and LLC'S with or w/o pic time than any other regional. There is a pie chart on their website that kind of breaks it all down.I guess their training is excellent and the majors love their fo's due to that fact.If you are looking for pic time,don't look at XJT. If you are looking for a good qol,excellent pay,contract and working environment then yeah look at xjt.What would you do if you had previous 121 time and had an offer from xjt,PDT and Gojet?
You live in an XJT base,would enjoy great qol,but would never upgrade? Do you go to XJT and wait for the call from a major or llc as an fo or do you go to PDT or G7 ,upgrade when you feel ready and log that coveted pic time?????
I know someone that is pondering that decision right now. I talked to him earlier today and he is leaning toward xjt.
You live in an XJT base,would enjoy great qol,but would never upgrade? Do you go to XJT and wait for the call from a major or llc as an fo or do you go to PDT or G7 ,upgrade when you feel ready and log that coveted pic time?????
I know someone that is pondering that decision right now. I talked to him earlier today and he is leaning toward xjt.
10-22-2016, 06:33 PM
#122
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Joined APC: May 2016
Posts: 24
Originally Posted by Da40Pilot
I am trying really, really, really hard to understand why anyone in their right mind would want to go to ExpressJet in today's environment.
I don't know if it's people not doing their research or maybe being misinformed but, to those of you applying to work there, are you aware that reserve is eternal and that you'll most likely never upgrade?
People are fleeing that place like the plague due to stagnation and beimg endless years on reserve. With other regionals, you'll be upgrading around the same time you'll have a line at XJT.
I am shaking my head in disbelief at this thread - I'm sure XJT is an awesome place to work at but that has nothing to do with career progression.
I don't know if it's people not doing their research or maybe being misinformed but, to those of you applying to work there, are you aware that reserve is eternal and that you'll most likely never upgrade?
People are fleeing that place like the plague due to stagnation and beimg endless years on reserve. With other regionals, you'll be upgrading around the same time you'll have a line at XJT.
I am shaking my head in disbelief at this thread - I'm sure XJT is an awesome place to work at but that has nothing to do with career progression.
10-22-2016, 06:39 PM
#123
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Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 774
Originally Posted by Da40Pilot
I am trying really, really, really hard to understand why anyone in their right mind would want to go to ExpressJet in today's environment.
I don't know if it's people not doing their research or maybe being misinformed but, to those of you applying to work there, are you aware that reserve is eternal and that you'll most likely never upgrade?
People are fleeing that place like the plague due to stagnation and beimg endless years on reserve. With other regionals, you'll be upgrading around the same time you'll have a line at XJT.
I am shaking my head in disbelief at this thread - I'm sure XJT is an awesome place to work at but that has nothing to do with career progression.
I don't know if it's people not doing their research or maybe being misinformed but, to those of you applying to work there, are you aware that reserve is eternal and that you'll most likely never upgrade?
People are fleeing that place like the plague due to stagnation and beimg endless years on reserve. With other regionals, you'll be upgrading around the same time you'll have a line at XJT.
I am shaking my head in disbelief at this thread - I'm sure XJT is an awesome place to work at but that has nothing to do with career progression.
10-22-2016, 07:39 PM
#124
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Joined APC: Jun 2013
Posts: 806
Originally Posted by idlethrust
I heard that the big selling point of their recruiters is the notion that XJT sends more pilots to the majors and LLC'S with or w/o pic time than any other regional. There is a pie chart on their website that kind of breaks it all down.I guess their training is excellent and the majors love their fo's due to that fact.If you are looking for pic time,don't look at XJT. If you are looking for a good qol,excellent pay,contract and working environment then yeah look at xjt.What would you do if you had previous 121 time and had an offer from xjt,PDT and Gojet?
You live in an XJT base,would enjoy great qol,but would never upgrade? Do you go to XJT and wait for the call from a major or llc as an fo or do you go to PDT or G7 ,upgrade when you feel ready and log that coveted pic time?????
I know someone that is pondering that decision right now. I talked to him earlier today and he is leaning toward xjt.
You live in an XJT base,would enjoy great qol,but would never upgrade? Do you go to XJT and wait for the call from a major or llc as an fo or do you go to PDT or G7 ,upgrade when you feel ready and log that coveted pic time?????
I know someone that is pondering that decision right now. I talked to him earlier today and he is leaning toward xjt.
Our regional is a refugee camp for former XJT pilots and not a day goes by when I don't hear a horror story of 7 year FOs who never got anywhere there.
10-22-2016, 07:40 PM
#125
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Posts: 612
Originally Posted by Da40Pilot
Huh? How is being 2+ years on reserve/ready reserve good QOL? So you're basically ok with making $25/hour with no incentives whatsoever just so that you can live in base? You have got to be kidding me. No major will hire an XJT guy over any other regional airline. Their metric and algorithms don't give you more points for coming from XJT.
Our regional is a refugee camp for former XJT pilots and not a day goes by when I don't hear a horror story of 7 year FOs who never got anywhere there.
Our regional is a refugee camp for former XJT pilots and not a day goes by when I don't hear a horror story of 7 year FOs who never got anywhere there.
10-22-2016, 08:04 PM
#126
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Posts: 806
Originally Posted by N6279P
Who is making $25 an hour? Certainly not an XJT pilot.
Sorry but there's just no excuse. Reason I feel so strongly about this is because it's 2016 and it's a pilot's market. Nobody should be on reserve longer than 2 months nowadays, but to each its own.
10-22-2016, 09:14 PM
#127
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Joined APC: Mar 2016
Posts: 193
Originally Posted by Da40Pilot
It's a figure of speech to make a point of the bigger picture. $36@75 hours guarantee with 11-12 days off per month while sitting in never ending reserve does not sound like QOL to me compared to other regionals that pay the same and where you can credit 115 hours and have a line in 2 months and an upgrade to $70/hour in 15 months.
Sorry but there's just no excuse. Reason I feel so strongly about this is because it's 2016 and it's a pilot's market. Nobody should be on reserve longer than 2 months nowadays, but to each its own.
Sorry but there's just no excuse. Reason I feel so strongly about this is because it's 2016 and it's a pilot's market. Nobody should be on reserve longer than 2 months nowadays, but to each its own.
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10-22-2016, 09:37 PM
#128
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Posts: 193
Originally Posted by CmonSon
Please specify which pilot group has eternal reserve and how you came about this information. I know the ASA side doesn't have reserve as long as you are claiming. I will give you the upgrade thing. As of now it is forever long but things can change. Who knows. But the training is top notch and quality of life is still better than other regionals.
Reserve here gets longer each month. 7/900 reserve is stagnant and doesn't move one bit. Been here a year and can't even hold LCR. Switching to the 200 is increaseing workload drastically. Doing 5-6 legs a day all while taking a $3 pay cut.
You can increase your QOL by simply holding a line and increase pay elsewhere. Jumping ship is best thing to do right now. Even if you were to upgrade right now, you'll go back on reserve for 5 years plus as a captain.
Leaving is not an easy choice but this place is falling behind.
Like DApilot said. With the pilot market the way it is, it's unacceptable for someone to have to sit reserve for more than 6 months, let alone for one year plus.
10-22-2016, 10:58 PM
#130
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Posts: 1,401
Originally Posted by Da40Pilot
Huh? How is being 2+ years on reserve/ready reserve good QOL? So you're basically ok with making $25/hour with no incentives whatsoever just so that you can live in base? You have got to be kidding me. No major will hire an XJT guy over any other regional airline. Their metric and algorithms don't give you more points for coming from XJT.
Our regional is a refugee camp for former XJT pilots and not a day goes by when I don't hear a horror story of 7 year FOs who never got anywhere there.
Our regional is a refugee camp for former XJT pilots and not a day goes by when I don't hear a horror story of 7 year FOs who never got anywhere there.
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