Braniff DC8

Lolololololololol, You said Butte!

sf340b

"The airlines hire until they furlough. There will be another downturn and furloughs, not if, when! Getting drunk on cool aid is fine and then reality sets in."

Hey CA, your facts are not going to get in the way of that cool aide buzz this mngt desk jockey has on.

RemoveB4Flight

At risk of further derailing the XJT thread..
In reference to the previously mentioned "we've been here before only to have the rug pulled out". Have we really been here before? Has the demand for pilots ever honestly been this bad? With each of the legacies needing something like 700/year for the next 10 years and not to mention all the others that need to do such aggressive hiring just to keep up, is this uncharted territory?

Braniff DC8

It was pretty good after WW2 until the mid late sixties. 70s was furlough time. 78 -82 was ok. 85-90 was eh. 94-2001 eh. Then Quiet for a long time! Then starting in what, 2012. So an average is ten years say.

Sorry about the thread high jack (Sorry for the pun), it is a good point for discussion.

I remember watching all my regional brothers and sisters getting hired thinking my day would come. It didn't for a long time. At one stage, I even went back to the regionals and enjoyed but it shut down. This business can be frustrating. Some have had great success, others, not so much.

I'll shut up now.

SydKat

That wasn't my experience. All the senior CAs I knew and was referencing had updated apps, clean records, aviation degrees, lots of 121 experience, had been to job fairs, yet still couldn't get an interview while most of their FOs were waiting on a class date or had an interview coming up.

Da40Pilot

I am trying really, really, really hard to understand why anyone in their right mind would want to go to ExpressJet in today's environment.

I don't know if it's people not doing their research or maybe being misinformed but, to those of you applying to work there, are you aware that reserve is eternal and that you'll most likely never upgrade?

People are fleeing that place like the plague due to stagnation and beimg endless years on reserve. With other regionals, you'll be upgrading around the same time you'll have a line at XJT.

I am shaking my head in disbelief at this thread - I'm sure XJT is an awesome place to work at but that has nothing to do with career progression.

idlethrust

I heard that the big selling point of their recruiters is the notion that XJT sends more pilots to the majors and LLC'S with or w/o pic time than any other regional. There is a pie chart on their website that kind of breaks it all down.I guess their training is excellent and the majors love their fo's due to that fact.If you are looking for pic time,don't look at XJT. If you are looking for a good qol,excellent pay,contract and working environment then yeah look at xjt.What would you do if you had previous 121 time and had an offer from xjt,PDT and Gojet?
You live in an XJT base,would enjoy great qol,but would never upgrade? Do you go to XJT and wait for the call from a major or llc as an fo or do you go to PDT or G7 ,upgrade when you feel ready and log that coveted pic time?????
I know someone that is pondering that decision right now. I talked to him earlier today and he is leaning toward xjt.

NotMrNiceGuy

I fly with a large amount of former military that are new FO's. A lot of our new people want QOL and a local base.

Folove

PREACH!!!
Somebody get this man a beer!

Happyflyer

Almost, some of those company's are hiring because their guys are going to the big 3. You can't double count the same positions.
If a position at mainline is filled with an LCC pilot then it creates a job there, but that isn't 2 jobs available.
I.e. A Delta vacancy filled with a JB pilot creating a vacancy at JB. That is not 2 vacancys for the RJ pilot workforce.