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ASA was doing fine on our own until we were sold to Delta, who did nothing to improve things. Delta managers who retired from Delta slowly took over management of ASA and further ran it down, and then sold ASA to SKYW, who improved things some. Then SKYW bought XTJ and merged the two, and it's been downhill ever since.
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ExpressJet
Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate
(Post 2287399)
Of course there is. However, like any other investment you expect results. Because there is zero guarantee of results, who do so many pro union guys like yourself take such issue with people who want nothing to do with them?
You obviously didn't understand what I'm saying. And how would you? I have my results. There is never a guarantee that any job I have will exist until I retire. That's not the result we pay for. Only management can control that end. And we have had very bad management, especially since Inc took over.
Originally Posted by gojo
(Post 2287486)
Are you sure? Maybe you could expand and provide solid examples? Because I'm pretty sure by Skywest's history that they know how to run and build a business. Seems to me if they'd put some effort into the Express Jet side they could make it profitable as well. And in regards to the whipsawing post, how can you call it whipsawing when they are not using it for bargaining? It's my understanding they're not even negotiating or trying to improve things on the union side
They are doing what is smart at this point. The past is the past. They can't go back and fix those mistakes. So it makes sense to shutter the side that is losing money and keeping the cheaper labor side.
Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate
(Post 2287492)
You know the wedge is the Union, and always has been. Pilots on both sides know this, and know as long as there is a union in place, nothing is going anywhere. Kind of like beating a dead horse I suppose.
Hindsight being 20/20, I would probably put money on if OO had to do it all over again, the purchase of ASA and XJet would not have happened. However, that is my opinion only... The union was not a wedge. It's simple an anti-union stance management took. That's unfortunate but oh well. All other airlines make money with unions, including regionals. So it's definitely not the unions preventing a profitable business. But I agree, if they could do it all over again, they would not have bought either. And I don't lose sleep at night about the hundreds of millions they've sunk into ASA/XJT. |
Originally Posted by amcnd
(Post 2286042)
The SKW inter memo. SkyWest is even back flying 700's for Alaska!!
Doesn't sound accurate. |
Originally Posted by Dude Abides
(Post 2287625)
When did they stop flying the 700's? And who was flying it for OO?
Doesn't sound accurate. |
Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate
(Post 2287682)
You just contradicted yourself with this statement.
Yes, I know you think that. And I see you conveniently ignored how I explained that. |
Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate
(Post 2287757)
Didn't ignore anything...it is because you are like a dog chasing its tail. No matter how hard you try, ya just can't escape the reality of some things.
https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-08-2015/0B3XD2.gif You still don't get it. Not surprising. |
Originally Posted by Dude Abides
(Post 2287625)
When did they stop flying the 700's? And who was flying it for OO?
Doesn't sound accurate. |
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