Sluggo_63

Were you comfortable with the level of detail the PAC required to be accepted? Did you feel like they were asking for too much personal information?

DLax85

So can you please provide your fellow pilots on some details on what was different between "letter 1" and "letter 2" (without violating your own personal HIPPA, of course)...??

What magic words made the difference to them?

Thanks

ARAMP1

Are you saying that after submitting an insite report the PAC said the sick note is now sufficient?

The Walrus

I think it had to do with the words boil, lance and oozing.

Fdxlag2

Might have been the 12MB picture of the commode.

Adlerdriver

I flew with one guy who had the specifics on the points and triggers for required letters, etc. Maybe I was fatigued, but I thought I got it from him. Guess not since I can't find it.

Frankly, I'm surprised someone hasn't posted the details by now. They're out there.

HoursHore

It's a two year look back, Things that are worth large amount of points are calling in for training, before reserve block, after a reserve assignment, and within four hours of show. I do not know if this is the full list. Every other thing is worth one. I do not know the number of points that triggers the note request.

Calling in sick after a reserve assignment in the past has also triggered a scheduling irregularity request, in which they dont ask for a note, but do ask for an explanation. Don't know if that's still the case with the new system.

Red Letter

Frankly, I'm surprised someone hasn't posted the details by now. They're out there.[/QUOTE]


Try "Sick Grievance" post #5 from 2016. I doubt much has changed.

DLax85

.....Just wondering what would cause a pilot's STS score to exceed the company's established threshold. What is the threshold?

From various reliable sources (and the Fleet Captain handbook):

3 points - any sick event that doesn't fit any other category
4 points - Before a block of R Days or before the end of a Block of R days
5 points - In conjunction with a Check Ride or a Sim Event
6 points - In conjunction with a Holiday or Vacation

Some points hang on for 12 months, others 24 months (e.g. Check Ride/Sim).

At 12 total points in the "look back period", automatic computer generated messages for a doctor's note occurred. Once the Grievance settlement is implemented, the "Sick Czar" (Chief Pilot's designee) will have unfettered ability to analyze this highly complex data and make a decision that will never set any precedent. That seems reasonable!

At 17 points, you were "invited in for a chat".

At 23 points, management could elect to harass you with CBA 15.D.. In their perverted logic, 23 points meets the qualifications of CBA 15.D.1.

As you can see, this is a very complex tracking system (STS) which involves massive computing power and a large staff of programmers to implement (perhaps that is the root cause of our IT problems). That is also why it may take until June 30, 2017 (or perhaps longer if mutually agreed (e.g ".. but in no event.... unless mutually agreed!?!?!?!)) to be able to program in the "massive changes" from the Grievance Settlement.

Will someone like LK or DM be appointed the "Sick Czar"? Will it be a V.P position? Nothing would surprise me at this point.

The really sad part is that many sane, logical, professional solutions to the Sick Leave Usage "problem(s)" exist, but management seems incapable of figuring out what they are.

I guess like Training, Goodwill has no cost.

DISCLAIMER: I checked with Hillary and she is convinced that none of this is classified.


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urinmyseat

So if you bid mostly reserve, you can be expected to hit the threshold earlier than a line holder? If you call in sick while holding a reserve line, and it isn't during a block of reserve days, won't it always be before a block of reserve days? Who calls in sick on days off? Makes as much sense as POOD. Power Of One Drop!

I may actually use that as my excuse next time I'm sick on reserve. I POOD before my block of reserve days, so I called in sick. I bet they accept it, for the simple fact that I used one of their stupid acronyms.