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opt0712 11-24-2022 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by Rajplt (Post 3536977)
Our flying is said to decrease. Our open trips have been greatly reduced, Some fleets have next to nothing available on our “open time” board. That being said, UPS teamsters (non pilots) tend to be far apart from management at the moment. If things don’t improve, I wouldn’t be surprised in the coming months if we get some of UPS’s business as a result. That could soften the blow to our operations as we slide back down to normal. Conjecture from a line slime pilot who knows little

Yea our reduction in flying has nothing to do with UPS. Network 2.0 will involve more trucking via Ground/Freight/LTL at the expense of reduced flight hours. Further, an overhaul of which aircraft we fly to certain destinations will be evaluated. Not to mention an overhaul to our bid packs SS said would be coming. Will be interesting to see. These past two and a half years have been all hands on deck and write the check for whatever was needed to keep the operation moving. Now that demand has gone back to normal, FedEx has to follow suit. But by no means is the sky falling here.

PurpleToolBox 11-28-2022 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by opt0712 (Post 3537049)
… Network 2.0 will involve more trucking via Ground/Freight/LTL at the expense of reduced flight hours. Further, an overhaul of which aircraft we fly to certain destinations will be evaluated…But by no means is the sky falling here.

The union Scheduling Improvement Group called this peak, “the least peaky Peak ever.” That isn’t good.

The 2Q earnings call scheduled for December 20th may give us more information on what’s to become of our flying. UPS beat earnings and didn’t scream the doom and gloom like FedEx leadership. We know management has mentioned more cuts to come after peak.

Jman85 11-28-2022 07:06 AM


Originally Posted by PurpleToolBox (Post 3538531)
The union Scheduling Improvement Group called this peak, “the least peaky Peak ever.” That isn’t good.

The 2Q earnings call scheduled for December 20th may give us more information on what’s to become of our flying. UPS beat earnings and didn’t scream the doom and gloom like FedEx leadership. We know management has mentioned more cuts to come after peak.

is it cuts or more of “proper sizing post COVID?”

Did FedEx just ballon up to answer the call for covid and now things are going back to “normal?”

over a billion in profits, seems weird to hear people talk about doom and gloom.
just curious.

opt0712 11-28-2022 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by PurpleToolBox (Post 3538531)
The union Scheduling Improvement Group called this peak, “the least peaky Peak ever.” That isn’t good.

The 2Q earnings call scheduled for December 20th may give us more information on what’s to become of our flying. UPS beat earnings and didn’t scream the doom and gloom like FedEx leadership. We know management has mentioned more cuts to come after peak.

UPS is a trucking company with jets. Of course they're more efficient. And they aren't in contract negotiations.

FXLAX 11-28-2022 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by opt0712 (Post 3538598)
UPS is a trucking company with jets. Of course they're more efficient. And they aren't in contract negotiations.


They are in contract negotiations. The kind that doesn’t require the NMB to go on strike.

opt0712 11-28-2022 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by FXLAX (Post 3538612)
They are in contract negotiations. The kind that doesn’t require the NMB to go on strike.

So the TA they signed doesn't count? Which sections are still open in negotiations?

170driver 11-28-2022 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by opt0712 (Post 3538625)
So the TA they signed doesn't count? Which sections are still open in negotiations?


The truck drivers covered by teamsters are in negotiations.

PurpleToolBox 11-28-2022 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by opt0712 (Post 3538598)
UPS is a trucking company with jets. Of course they're more efficient. And they aren't in contract negotiations.

Which is exactly why on every earnings call the analysts ask FS why FedEx operates three different networks. Now that he is moving aside, the new leadership is starting the process of combining the networks.

Rajplt 11-28-2022 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by 170driver (Post 3538626)
The truck drivers covered by teamsters are in negotiations.

Yes, EXACTLY 170driver.

FXLAX 11-28-2022 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by opt0712 (Post 3538625)
So the TA they signed doesn't count? Which sections are still open in negotiations?


They have more than one work group that is unionized. And as far as I know only the pilots fall under the RLA. Which is why they wanted and extension with them so that they can have all hands on deck for the real fight to come.


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