lots of MD11 pilots on property waiting to change seats.

With how we do system bids and with the foot coming off the hiring accelerator I’m surprised anyone in this class took a 757 spot over a WB. Anyone coming on property now into that fleet may be stuck on it for a LONG time.

Also there is still a big backlog of folks from the MD/757/Airbus waiting to go to the 777/767 fleet so they are gonna have to get backfilled. Would still expect to see NH in those fleets.

It kinda depends on your definition of “LONG” while there may not be as much movement as the last 3-5 years. There still will be a fair amount of movement due just to retirements.

I heard hiring 50 a month this year still.

There are 757 FOs who bid 777 in December of 2020 who will not train until next summer. I would consider 2.5 years to train into an award an insanely long time especially given the record amount of hiring we have done.

Hard to say what the future holds, but if our next bid is still a year out and is much smaller than the last one, we may be looking at a similar timeline. I hope not, but who knows.

Realignment bid coming soon

Curious where you heard this from? I assume you meant 2023. They put out at RTAG that they’re back to 200-250 a year starting next year, and a recent email went out to those waiting in pool they’re projected to hire 1,900 in the next 10 years.

Could be way off base, but I believe that 1,900 number that has been bandied about is a minimum. As in the minimum required to cover forecasted retirements as well as growth from newly delivered aircraft.

Gotcha, thanks! Hope that’s true

599 2022 and 618 2021…… +/-