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11-27-2019, 03:57 PM
#61
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: FO
Posts: 3,032
Originally Posted by iHateAMR
So, the company can create unproductive weekend off, worth 12 hours of credit, or split your week and not pay you the 12 hours. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out how they’ll exploit this. Have we not learned our lesson with lie flat seats yet? I have a retirement plan to sell you, bring a fork!
11-27-2019, 04:17 PM
#62
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2005
Posts: 1,273
Originally Posted by iHateAMR
So, the company can create unproductive weekend off, worth 12 hours of credit, or split your week and not pay you the 12 hours. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out how they’ll exploit this. Have we not learned our lesson with lie flat seats yet? I have a retirement plan to sell you, bring a fork!
12-01-2019, 06:56 AM
#63
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2005
Position: 757 Capt
Posts: 2,418
Originally Posted by PW305
The biggest difference is the 2 hour extension under 117 is ‘PIC discretion’ instead of our current system which is ‘everyone goes to 16hrs for the next week if a snowflake falls near Memphis’
Me.
You know who doesn't go to Operational limits every time.
Me.
I don't need a reg or a CBA to protect me. I'm either fit to fly or I'm not.
There's been times on HSBY where I've been well within CBA Scheduled limits and I've said No-not doing that.
Times when an Operational Emergency's been called and I've said-NO.
I am never obligated to fly anything.
Never.
I've said no to CRS BS revisions after being on duty a mere 7 hours following a 27-hour layover.
On paper, it should have been copacetic. In practice, not so much.
12-01-2019, 09:46 AM
#64
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2012
Position: Two Wheeler FrontSeat
Posts: 1,162
Originally Posted by kronan
You know who doesn't go to FAR limits because of snow near Memphis.
Me.
You know who doesn't go to Operational limits every time.
Me.
I don't need a reg or a CBA to protect me. I'm either fit to fly or I'm not.
There's been times on HSBY where I've been well within CBA Scheduled limits and I've said No-not doing that.
Times when an Operational Emergency's been called and I've said-NO.
I am never obligated to fly anything.
Never.
I've said no to CRS BS revisions after being on duty a mere 7 hours following a 27-hour layover.
On paper, it should have been copacetic. In practice, not so much.
Me.
You know who doesn't go to Operational limits every time.
Me.
I don't need a reg or a CBA to protect me. I'm either fit to fly or I'm not.
There's been times on HSBY where I've been well within CBA Scheduled limits and I've said No-not doing that.
Times when an Operational Emergency's been called and I've said-NO.
I am never obligated to fly anything.
Never.
I've said no to CRS BS revisions after being on duty a mere 7 hours following a 27-hour layover.
On paper, it should have been copacetic. In practice, not so much.
12-01-2019, 01:04 PM
#65
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: Crewmember
Posts: 1,382
Originally Posted by Sluggo_63
Don't you work here? I thought you did. Did you ever fly in the domestic system? Weekend layovers are pretty normal things in the domestic hubturning bidpacks. Land Friday or Saturday morning, layover until Monday night.
A lot, but not all, have been replaced by double deadheads.
Sometimes certain snow cities have weekend layovers in the winter and double deadheads in the summer. Rochester is an example.
The company will do whatever is cheapest while protecting the system.
I would expect nothing less.
I would not expect them to spend money for what is convenient for us.
12-01-2019, 05:56 PM
#66
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2009
Posts: 396
Originally Posted by kronan
I don't need a reg or a CBA to protect me. I'm either fit to fly or I'm not.
Otherwise what’s the purpose of duty limits at all? We could just all call fatigued when we’ve had enough, right?
12-02-2019, 07:18 AM
#69
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Position: FO
Posts: 180
Originally Posted by Sluggo_63
Don't you work here? I thought you did. Did you ever fly in the domestic system? Weekend layovers are pretty normal things in the domestic hubturning bidpacks. Land Friday or Saturday morning, layover until Monday night.
12-02-2019, 08:59 AM
#70
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2005
Position: 757 Capt
Posts: 2,418
Originally Posted by iHateAMR
I do work at purple, but the MD bid pack hasn’t seen a weekend layover in at least 4 years. It’s all double deadheads.
Company would rather pay us to sit around in a city, potentially available, versus buy up our lines and pay us while we're at home off the clock with "free" CHs.
75 flying was drastically reduced in the summer with lots of extra bodies and an increase in Weekend Layovers.
When the company needs the productivity, DH's increase.
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