System Bid 20-02
11-13-2020 | 08:01 PM
#111
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 2,174
Likes: 1
I believe CGN (not sure about HKG) is the only base that is exempted from pairings not being allowed to turn through base on the same pairing.
At every other base you can be on a paring that ends in base, followed by a pairing that begins in base, but they are separate pairings. It is not a hub turn on the same pairing, in contrast to the pairings we have with hubturns through AFW, EWR, GSO, IND (for non-IND crews), and MEM (for non-MEM crews), and OAK.
At every other base you can be on a paring that ends in base, followed by a pairing that begins in base, but they are separate pairings. It is not a hub turn on the same pairing, in contrast to the pairings we have with hubturns through AFW, EWR, GSO, IND (for non-IND crews), and MEM (for non-MEM crews), and OAK.
Yeah that and that there are appears to be no trips in the sample that can be put together like they are in MEM, hub turns not on the same pairing. And therefore the OAK sleep room issue not being any different than it is now.
11-14-2020 | 05:46 AM
#112
Line Holder
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 490
Likes: 41
A line contains pairings that turn through a hub. "Whose on first?"
11-14-2020 | 06:07 AM
#114
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,876
Likes: 0
From: 767 CA
The current MEM bid pack has two separate trips that ddh to LAX and do week long LAX -OAK -LAX. In the OAK bid pack those would be a single dh to LAX return to OAK and then separate day trips of OAK- LAX- OAK and then a OAK -LAX DH
The only thing in the sample bid packs trip 13. So I guess they would keep the LAX OAK trips in the MEM bid pack because of no sleep rooms.
Or is this a case where the sample bid pack is nowhere near the final true bid pack
The only thing in the sample bid packs trip 13. So I guess they would keep the LAX OAK trips in the MEM bid pack because of no sleep rooms.
Or is this a case where the sample bid pack is nowhere near the final true bid pack
11-14-2020 | 07:41 AM
#115
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 2,174
Likes: 1
Looks like I did miss a sample trip. Trip 13 can be strung together to turn through a hub. But other than that, I don’t see anymore.
What’s on second?
11-14-2020 | 10:22 AM
#116
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,506
Likes: 0
From: 777 Captain in Training
You are everything you are projecting onto others and or accusing them of. You know nothing about me or how I operate.
To the young crew force, notice his language. Notice how he doesn't include himself in any of his comments. It is always YOU. And its THIS pilot group .. not ours or mine.
He's a management troll. No doubt about it.
To the young crew force, notice his language. Notice how he doesn't include himself in any of his comments. It is always YOU. And its THIS pilot group .. not ours or mine.
He's a management troll. No doubt about it.
11-14-2020 | 06:46 PM
#118
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 2,425
Likes: 0
From: 757 Capt
There is no contractual requirement to have sleep rooms during a hub turn. The only requirement for rooms is during a trip, either for a legal rest or during an intermediate stop greater than 4 hours.
11-15-2020 | 07:40 AM
#119
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,876
Likes: 0
From: 767 CA
Although there is no contractual requirement I think the company, ALPA and pilots would agree that sleep rooms(especially with the wake up call program), compared to lounge chairs, has cut down on fatigue issues on hub turns. Yes I know some people don't take naps on the turns.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
