Let The Surge Begin (For Hiring and Training)
03-12-2021, 02:45 AM
#11
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This is awesome news. I’m happy our company is hiring during this time in aviation history. Is it so hard for people to be positive? I’m convinced the negative people here are posting after getting their Chinese anal swabs.
03-12-2021, 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by BrulesRulez
The 879 (850 previously) was announced Fall of last year. Have the new hires since then been accounted for in the hiring plan of 879 or does it start now? We've hired quite a lot since resuming classes Spring of last year.
"Hiring & Base Update: Our most recent pilot posting generated 867 new hires. In 2020, we hired 232 of those crew members. This year we will hire 512 pilots with the remainder in 2022."
03-12-2021, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueMoon
I wonder how long folks already on property will wait for ITU for a new plane? Been denied the past two months for new hire requirements. I’m guessing I won’t train until next year.
03-12-2021, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueMoon
I wonder how long folks already on property will wait for ITU for a new plane? Been denied the past two months for new hire requirements. I’m guessing I won’t train until next year.
03-12-2021, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Noworkallplay
And are you not getting an SDP for that? Many actually like this concept because it allows them to keep or increase seniority in current seat while receiving the SDP (pay increase). Many have made out very nicely getting the SDP in the right seat of the 75 and doing draft all the while getting double deadhead trips. They then go to the “to” seat they bid and actually make less due to being a reserves with no draft. They also realize the quality of life hit they bid by going to the more senior airplane. Another one of those “it depends who you ask” things.
03-13-2021, 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Noworkallplay
And are you not getting an SDP for that? Many actually like this concept because it allows them to keep or increase seniority in current seat while receiving the SDP (pay increase). Many have made out very nicely getting the SDP in the right seat of the 75 and doing draft all the while getting double deadhead trips. They then go to the “to” seat they bid and actually make less due to being a reserves with no draft. They also realize the quality of life hit they bid by going to the more senior airplane. Another one of those “it depends who you ask” things.
There are also plenty of pilots who wouldn’t be on reserve on the plane they are awaiting training on. Pilots who are senior and who have waited for one reason or another to change equipment and are now being denied the ability to go to training. Also, SDP only goes to those who would have been able to hold training that month. It doesn’t go further down but it certainly delays training much further down the bid list. Abrogation of seniority no matter how rosy you try to paint the picture.
03-13-2021, 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by kronan
A 75FO with a training bid should be getting the 2015 version of Passover pay...and deferring that WB FO training as long as they choose to
03-13-2021, 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Commuter56
That is not how any of this works. I've recently gotten an education in the failures of contract 2015. No SDP, no NHJAC. They can stuff all the new hires they want in front of me and there is no compensation or disincentive for them to do so. I will be on narrow body pay until someone is kind enough to start training pilots on property. Until then I am stuck and get to watch them stuff the seat I was awarded with new hires.
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