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Old 09-23-2021 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by opt0712
Let's see we have 650ish aircraft and UPS has 250ish. There's your difference in staffing issues.
Perhaps at gateways, but doubtful. Brown and FedEx are roughly the same overall size personnel wise. Brown handles more overall packages and has significantly higher profit margins, largely because it flies a far smaller share of its volume. The big difference is almost everyone at Brown is unionized and has relatively good pension and healthcare benefits. Brown also struggles retaining folks at the entry level, but once they’ve been around a little they tend to stick. Non-unionized folks don’t have those incentives to stick around if they can make $.50/hr more somewhere else.
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Old 09-23-2021 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by tnkrdrvr
Perhaps at gateways, but doubtful. Brown and FedEx are roughly the same overall size personnel wise. Brown handles more overall packages and has significantly higher profit margins, largely because it flies a far smaller share of its volume. The big difference is almost everyone at Brown is unionized and has relatively good pension and healthcare benefits. Brown also struggles retaining folks at the entry level, but once they’ve been around a little they tend to stick. Non-unionized folks don’t have those incentives to stick around if they can make $.50/hr more somewhere else.
Fedex is bussing workers from almost two hours away in the MS Delta to work the hub. Thats almost 4 hrs a day of pay for riding a bus....
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Old 09-23-2021 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by DirtyPurple
I agree with your general premise/sarcasm here, but I would not lump the FedEx employees into that necessarily. Those dudes/dudettes working for FedEx have been highly professional & hustling at work. They break the mold of PNW liberal tendencies IMO.

I meant to respond to you directly with my other post; sorry for the double post.
‘I agree with you 100%! My sarcasm was not directed at our FedEx employees, it was directed at the fact that Fedex can’t hire enough people to man the ramp, you know, because the unemployed are not interested in working because they have better things to do! I guess that’s what I get for trying to be funny. I lived in the PNW for 16 years, luckily I moved back to Florida 10 years ago!
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Old 09-23-2021 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Merle Haggard
Am I having a minor stroke as I read the scope section of the contract?

Why is the word minimum used where I would expect it to be maximum?


1.B.6. The Company may also wet lease a minimum of two aircraft above
60,000 lbs. MTOGW for up to four (4) bid periods per calendar year

1.B.6.b. Except for the minimum two aircraft wet leasing referred to above,
during the bid periods described in this paragraph, the Company
shall not wet lease more than the net gain of trunk aircraft scheduled
to be added and brought into service in any calendar year.
you were on the right page, but left out the next paragraph.

1.B.6.C Should the Company violate the four bid period restriction, the Company shall pay to the Association the following for each wet lease conducted the greater of the number of block hours scheduled or flown, times 2.0, times the highest hourly rate for a three (3) man crew with fifteen (15) years of pay longevity, in addition to the international override, if any .
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Old 09-23-2021 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Moosefire
you were on the right page, but left out the next paragraph.

1.B.6.C Should the Company violate the four bid period restriction, the Company shall pay to the Association the following for each wet lease conducted the greater of the number of block hours scheduled or flown, times 2.0, times the highest hourly rate for a three (3) man crew with fifteen (15) years of pay longevity, in addition to the international override, if any .
Right, I read the rest. That said, why would there be a minimum number of wet lease aircraft?
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Old 09-23-2021 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Merle Haggard
Right, I read the rest. That said, why would there be a minimum number of wet lease aircraft?
The context of the next paragraph shows the intent that the company is allowed to wet lease two aircraft for 4 months regardless of any (lack of) aircraft acquisitions.
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Old 09-23-2021 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by opt0712
Let's see we have 650ish aircraft and UPS has 250ish. There's your difference in staffing issues.
Well, let’s count apples to apples. If you count just “mainline” planes, it’s about 285 to 400. If you count non mainline planes, as in 200+ Caravans, ATR, and count UPS non mainline, then it’s more like 550 to 650. But, as explained earlier, employee count is the key number. We move more volume on the ground than Fedex, so saying 650 vs 250 is completely inaccurate and misleading.
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Old 09-24-2021 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by DirtyPurple
I agree with your general premise/sarcasm here, but I would not lump the FedEx employees into that necessarily. Those dudes/dudettes working for FedEx have been highly professional & hustling at work. They break the mold of PNW liberal tendencies IMO.

I meant to respond to you directly with my other post; sorry for the double post.
Professionalism/work ethic and political affiliation are exclusive virtues.
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Old 09-24-2021 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by opt0712
Let's see we have 650ish aircraft and UPS has 250ish. There's your difference in staffing issues.
I think APC needs to update their site. Only showing 384. 650 airplanes with 5100ish pilots? Efficient........
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Old 09-24-2021 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by C2078
Seems Fedex is circling back to pre Covid status, where operational issues were dragging down the company.

In the last quarterly earnings call, UPS did not mention having this staffing issue, and our current OTP continues to be high 90’s. I wonder why Fedex is having trouble finding people and UPS isn’t? Not bashing Fedex, just wondering why the difference?
Because at UPS workers are highly unionized and compensated well. FedEx, not so. FedEx has gotten away with luring minorities with low paying work for too long.

Originally Posted by MD11Simnerd
I think APC needs to update their site. Only showing 384. 650 airplanes with 5100ish pilots? Efficient........
I've tried to update APC; however, they only want information that comes from a legit business email domain, not public (Gmail, yahoo, AOL, Fastmail etc etc). Therefore they rejected all of my information.
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