Originally Posted by Tuck

There will be a significant realignment bid next month - 2-3 bases will close. That will cause a HUGE ripple effect throughout the system as senior guys move to MEM kicking them out and the more junior guys bump all those junior captains on the 777 and 767 and more and more. Realignment bids while we are shrinking the system will be hugely negative - a LOT of guys are going to get moved.

Of course we are overmanned - we were significantly overmanned in January and that was before all this new hire training ends shortly - all those instructors will be returning to the line. Way too many near retirees are hanging on longer than they projected hoping for a significant bump in a TA that may never come and if it does, may never pass.

If I were in my first 1-3 years here and had a competitive resume, I'd certainly look at DL or UAL. Their future is a lot brighter.

Originally Posted by Tuck

There will be a significant realignment bid next month - 2-3 bases will close. That will cause a HUGE ripple effect throughout the system as senior guys move to MEM kicking them out and the more junior guys bump all those junior captains on the 777 and 767 and more and more. Realignment bids while we are shrinking the system will be hugely negative - a LOT of guys are going to get moved.

Of course we are overmanned - we were significantly overmanned in January and that was before all this new hire training ends shortly - all those instructors will be returning to the line. Way too many near retirees are hanging on longer than they projected hoping for a significant bump in a TA that may never come and if it does, may never pass.

If I were in my first 1-3 years here and had a competitive resume, I'd certainly look at DL or UAL. Their future is a lot brighter.

Originally Posted by threeighteen

Have you read the language in the contract since the 2015? It’s very likely that no 777 or 767 captain will get bumped. We gave up bumping rights when we gave up passover pay.

Originally Posted by CloudSailor

Tuck is full of indisputable facts.

Two, but he adds that it could be three bases closing (2-3) next System Bid.

2 for sure, but could be 3 bases closing, same thing

Originally Posted by Coffeepilot1

Hmm, it’s kinda like we’re in the final stage of negotiations. Bring on the typical FUD (Fear, Unknown, Doubt).

Originally Posted by Tuck

We've been in the "end game" of negotiations since at least October - when we petitioned the NMB. We still have a ways to go to get a TA that this crew force will accept.

Originally Posted by Tuck

There will be a significant realignment bid next month - 2-3 bases will close. That will cause a HUGE ripple effect throughout the system as senior guys move to MEM kicking them out and the more junior guys bump all those junior captains on the 777 and 767 and more and more. Realignment bids while we are shrinking the system will be hugely negative - a LOT of guys are going to get moved.

Of course we are overmanned - we were significantly overmanned in January and that was before all this new hire training ends shortly - all those instructors will be returning to the line. Way too many near retirees are hanging on longer than they projected hoping for a significant bump in a TA that may never come and if it does, may never pass.

If I were in my first 1-3 years here and had a competitive resume, I'd certainly look at DL or UAL. Their future is a lot brighter.

Originally Posted by HvypurplePylot

I've heard those rumors as well. But how can there be that much shuffling but also send instructors to the line? Maybe on the 11 but the other fleets will see a large need in the training department.

Originally Posted by opt0712

We are still training out positions from the HKG closure from almost two years ago. But yea, sure, we are closing 2-3 bases. So the company wants to make drastic changes that will cause training events for the next three years or more? McKinsey definitely sees the fault in that logic.