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03-11-2023 | 05:31 PM
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You realize they're parking their MDs because they're Pratts and have a very expensive inspection coming due right? Our fleet is mostly GEs with plenty of "efficiency" left . Also, they have old -400 freighter models that will need replaced soon too. Should they be parking those too due to "efficiency?"
Just like when FedEx retired perfectly good 727s and replaced them with more fuel efficient and less reliable 757s. And worse the 727s were the most reliable jet in our network. They did it for the ESG. It was all to say that FedEx was being environmentally friendly.
FedEx is going to park the MD-11s. While it make take years, it is starting in April.
03-11-2023 | 06:34 PM
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While I understand the issue about the Pratts, Joseph's email didn't say they were only retiring Pratts. And this isn't about UPS. It is about FedEx.
Just like when FedEx retired perfectly good 727s and replaced them with more fuel efficient and less reliable 757s. And worse the 727s were the most reliable jet in our network. They did it for the ESG. It was all to say that FedEx was being environmentally friendly.
FedEx is going to park the MD-11s. While it make take years, it is starting in April.
Just like when FedEx retired perfectly good 727s and replaced them with more fuel efficient and less reliable 757s. And worse the 727s were the most reliable jet in our network. They did it for the ESG. It was all to say that FedEx was being environmentally friendly.
FedEx is going to park the MD-11s. While it make take years, it is starting in April.
^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^
Good point about the 727.
03-11-2023 | 06:43 PM
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While I understand the issue about the Pratts, Joseph's email didn't say they were only retiring Pratts. And this isn't about UPS. It is about FedEx.
Just like when FedEx retired perfectly good 727s and replaced them with more fuel efficient and less reliable 757s. And worse the 727s were the most reliable jet in our network. They did it for the ESG. It was all to say that FedEx was being environmentally friendly.
FedEx is going to park the MD-11s. While it make take years, it is starting in April.
Just like when FedEx retired perfectly good 727s and replaced them with more fuel efficient and less reliable 757s. And worse the 727s were the most reliable jet in our network. They did it for the ESG. It was all to say that FedEx was being environmentally friendly.
FedEx is going to park the MD-11s. While it make take years, it is starting in April.
03-12-2023 | 12:08 AM
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While I understand the issue about the Pratts, Joseph's email didn't say they were only retiring Pratts. And this isn't about UPS. It is about FedEx.
Just like when FedEx retired perfectly good 727s and replaced them with more fuel efficient and less reliable 757s. And worse the 727s were the most reliable jet in our network. They did it for the ESG. It was all to say that FedEx was being environmentally friendly.
FedEx is going to park the MD-11s. While it make take years, it is starting in April.
Just like when FedEx retired perfectly good 727s and replaced them with more fuel efficient and less reliable 757s. And worse the 727s were the most reliable jet in our network. They did it for the ESG. It was all to say that FedEx was being environmentally friendly.
FedEx is going to park the MD-11s. While it make take years, it is starting in April.
03-12-2023 | 04:42 AM
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03-12-2023 | 04:54 AM
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While I understand the issue about the Pratts, Joseph's email didn't say they were only retiring Pratts. And this isn't about UPS. It is about FedEx.
Just like when FedEx retired perfectly good 727s and replaced them with more fuel efficient and less reliable 757s. And worse the 727s were the most reliable jet in our network. They did it for the ESG. It was all to say that FedEx was being environmentally friendly.
FedEx is going to park the MD-11s. While it make take years, it is starting in April.
Just like when FedEx retired perfectly good 727s and replaced them with more fuel efficient and less reliable 757s. And worse the 727s were the most reliable jet in our network. They did it for the ESG. It was all to say that FedEx was being environmentally friendly.
FedEx is going to park the MD-11s. While it make take years, it is starting in April.
03-12-2023 | 05:20 AM
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03-12-2023 | 06:13 AM
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Parking 56 Md-11’s in short order, or at least prior to delivery of the remaining 777/767, implies a serious loss in demand for our service. If that were the case, the contagion would have spread to UPS/DHL. UPS has certainly slowed but isn’t talking about parking 1/3 of its widebody fleet. If we’re parking that many aircraft, we should all be seeking entertainment elsewhere. These are stupid reindeer games that must be played before we get a contract. Don’t give in to the fear. Or do give into the fear and go to one of the many places that are hiring. Just don’t accept less than you’re worth because you think you’re saving your job. If they need us, they’ll keep us. If they don’t, they’ll furlough you without batting an eye. There is no purple promise, no PSP, just business. Stand strong.
03-12-2023 | 06:50 AM
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We have 188 more frames than our rival. I would expect that we will shrink the fleet to more closely match our rivals numbers. Ive been saying this for years. We are turning into ips with blue pants instead of brown. In the 90s we had better schedules and browns schedules sucked. Well..that went the way of ups. I expect more of this. Upgrade times…i fly with FOs who have been here for 15 yrs so. Its a crapshoot.
03-12-2023 | 07:15 AM
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We have 188 more frames than our rival. I would expect that we will shrink the fleet to more closely match our rivals numbers. Ive been saying this for years. We are turning into ips with blue pants instead of brown. In the 90s we had better schedules and browns schedules sucked. Well..that went the way of ups. I expect more of this. Upgrade times…i fly with FOs who have been here for 15 yrs so. Its a crapshoot.
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