Scope Discussion
05-02-2023 | 03:12 AM
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Twisted logic.
05-02-2023 | 06:03 AM
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From: Fetal in the hub
I've said this repeatedly. This is a tactic. All the negative messaging is carefully crafted and disseminated (and repeated by the Negotiating committee chair SMH) with purpose. The American consumer is strong the mild recession that the Fed manufactured is already taking place. Volumes are down because they were at record levels. STOP Panicking the house isn't suddenly on fire. There are obvious efficiency improvements that should have been done ages ago but Fedex isn't suddenly on the verge of bankruptcy despite the messaging from the company AND the Negotiating Chairman.
The numbers for the economy this summer will be strong.
Stay focused and vote No! Do not believe PM when he eludes to whatever deal he gets will be the only deal WE will get.
The numbers for the economy this summer will be strong.
Stay focused and vote No! Do not believe PM when he eludes to whatever deal he gets will be the only deal WE will get.
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05-02-2023 | 08:09 AM
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Rolled through CDG a couple days ago, daytime, I could count about 27-30 737s all sitting on our ramp.
05-02-2023 | 08:21 AM
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I would like to hear our own NC debate UPS's NC on the merits of fighting for international scope language now, not in 6-8 years.
05-02-2023 | 08:45 AM
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I always appreciate your rationality and logic. And generally, I agree with 90% of what you say. But I think there are still some pretty significant headwinds from a macroeconomic perspective. Just four months into the year, we’ve lost three banks with total assets of more than half a trillion($). Inflation is nearly three times greater than 2018-19 and has been for some 20 months. And the FED is still planning on another hike this next quarter.
I’m not trying to give quarter to the company, but I don’t think this environment is as short lived as you convey. Your optimism is refreshing. Hope I’m wrong.
I’m not trying to give quarter to the company, but I don’t think this environment is as short lived as you convey. Your optimism is refreshing. Hope I’m wrong.
05-02-2023 | 10:36 AM
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05-02-2023 | 10:39 AM
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Furloughing is expensive and prevents you from spooling back up quickly. The ideal situation for management is some way to not furlough but pay your pilots less than min guarantee. That’s 4.a.2.b
Also, unique circumstances to these times: furloughing a pilot in this environment means you’re not likely to have them come back when you do a recall, and you’re going to struggle to hire other pilots too because who wants to go work for the incompetent idiots that don’t pay as well and also furloughed in the middle of a pilot shortage?
so yeah, considering all that, 4.a.2.b benefits the company a lot more than it benefits us right now.
05-02-2023 | 01:11 PM
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05-02-2023 | 01:53 PM
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Admittedly, I’m a novice when it comes to this subject. However, in light of recent events, I believe this is the headline issue of the forthcoming contract. I just wanted to hear everyone’s thoughts on what should be primary considerations when it comes to this subject. I have my focus areas which I will now list, but I would like others to highlight some blind spots for me if you could.
Here’s my top four scope items:
1. International Scope
Here’s my top four scope items:
1. International Scope
- All international flights conducted by FEDEX ALPA from represented crewmembers will continue to be flown by such crewmembers. The Company will
continually pursue additional route authority on a good faith basis. As the Company secures additional international route authority, it will take all reasonable steps to assure that such routes are flown by FEDEX ALPA crewmembers in accordance with this Agreement within two (2) bid periods of the date the route authority was granted. If the Company’s use of a subcontractor exceeds the two (2) bid periods under circumstances cited in this paragraph, the Company will meet with the Association to discuss the reason(s) for the delay. In no event will the Company take more than twelve (12) months to transition the new flying to the IPA, unless the parties mutually agree otherwise. The Company will report all use of subcontractors pursuant to this Section to the Association. - The above is copy and pasted from the UPS SCOPE section. This is a non-negotiable item for me. If it’s not in there, it’s a line in the sand. I understand some may disagree, but I didn’t come to FedEx for a domestic only airline.
- In addition to this scope, I would include an aircraft size restriction that all international flying that utilizes aircraft that have FedEx pay rates in our contract must utilize FedEx pilots.
- I realize this may not be enforceable or may face legal challenges. I don’t care. Get it in there.
- All FedEx flights must have a minimum of two FedEx pilots.
- Delta has this. I want it.
- If future Pilot operations should no longer require an RFO Pilot in the aircraft and they move that position to the ground, that ground pilot must be a FedEx seniority list Pilot.
- All FedEx freight that is flown between cities that are served by FedEx trunk aircraft both international and domestic must be flown by FedEx pilots.
- Example - The company cannot utilize United airlines direct from SFO-LHR.
- The company may utilize third party aircraft between cities that do not warrant trunk aircraft on that route, but once payload averages exceed 75,000 pounds per week, FedEx aircraft must be utilized.
- For domestic operations, no more than ten cans can be shipped third party from an origin city per week. Beyond this, a significant penalty will be levied.
whatever PM says, do the opposite. NC needs to fix the glaring issues w scope. Just like payrates-The landscape has changed over 2 years for scope as well. Do not let PM guilt trip us over folks retiring under an old cba…he is really talking about “don’t let me, PM, retire under an old cba”. NC works for us
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