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Old 05-02-2023 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by oncewasgood
The other major airlines took line guarantee reductions to prevent furloughs. It sounds like everyone agrees in the industry to lower the line value versus furloughing. It sounds like very few agree with you.
some other major airlines did. Some didn’t. None of them needed to. If UA hadn’t given up line guarantees they still wouldn’t have been able to furlough like they wanted to because all of the PIs needed to retrain the widebody guys how to fly the 737 would have furloughed. They had the company by the balls and still offered the company concessions.
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Old 05-02-2023 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by LuckyvsGood
whatever PM says, do the opposite. NC needs to fix the glaring issues w scope. Just like payrates-The landscape has changed over 2 years for scope as well. Do not let PM guilt trip us over folks retiring under an old cba…he is really talking about “don’t let me, PM, retire under an old cba”. NC works for us
I agree. The landscape has changed. But PM has some time left at FedEx. Unless he’s retiring early…I think he still has more than just a retirement dog in this fight. However. He is seeming to make it sound like we gotta vote yes cuz it’s all we are gonna get and a TA isn’t even reaches yet. Disappointing update.
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Old 05-02-2023 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Merle Haggard
Do not take your voting advice from someone who can't differentiate between elude and allude.
Merle you got me their. Sometimes spelling and proper grammar elude me. Your the better man when it comes to these thing, .

look no one has to listen to a thing I say. I am one man with one vote, but somebody has to offer something other than amplifying the management driven noise that everyone one around here seems intent on doing. I mean the NC is dropping slides that are pure expectation management. Seriously like WTH?!

Fedex can cut all the costs and layoff everyone and that will still not fix the fact that they are and continue to offer a substandard product that continues to plumb new lows for customer expectations. So Management going on all the financial shows and offering public statements (aimed at telegraphing messages to wall street AND you and me) still won't fix the problem. Yet we still take what they say and spread the FUD like wildfire as though offering some prescient vision.

This bid cannot stop the demographic freight train coming. It looks to solve service problems squarely rooted in outsourcing with more outsourcing and it will fail. The harder they fail the shorter their tenures will be. One thing remains they've not figured out how to "engineer" pilots out of the equation yet. Don't panic and hold fast.
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Old 05-02-2023 | 07:34 PM
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I can't wait to vote yes to an entirely reasonable contract with compensation and QOL improvements. Mostly to offset at least one of the automatic "no" voters who want $1,000,000/hr, double recess, and soda in the drinking fountains.
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Old 05-02-2023 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by OpusOne
voters who want $1,000,000/hr, double recess, and soda in the drinking fountains.
That does sound pretty good. Sign me up for that!
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Old 05-02-2023 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by OpusOne
I can't wait to vote yes to an entirely reasonable contract with compensation and QOL improvements. Mostly to offset at least one of the automatic "no" voters who want $1,000,000/hr, double recess, and soda in the drinking fountains.
One has to wonder did you vote the same on the strike vote? I mean you wouldn't want folks thinking you were unreasonable or something.

We went from industry leading to " reasonable contract with compensation and QOL improvements". Alright Hizzah!
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Old 05-02-2023 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by OpusOne
I can't wait to vote yes to an entirely reasonable contract with compensation and QOL improvements. Mostly to offset at least one of the automatic "no" voters who want $1,000,000/hr, double recess, and soda in the drinking fountains.
We must be getting close to a TA. The sell job is starting.
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Old 05-02-2023 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by OpusOne
I can't wait to vote yes to an entirely reasonable contract with compensation and QOL improvements. Mostly to offset at least one of the automatic "no" voters who want $1,000,000/hr, double recess, and soda in the drinking fountains.
We already have triple recess on the 757. Recess between each leg on the way in, recess at the hub, and then recess between each leg on the way out. It's great, and the best part is that it's not 117 legal and we aren't getting paid any extra to compensate for that.

Originally Posted by Shaman
One has to wonder did you vote the same on the strike vote? I mean you wouldn't want folks thinking you were unreasonable or something.

We went from industry leading to " reasonable contract with compensation and QOL improvements". Alright Hizzah!
Couldn't have said it better myself
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Old 05-02-2023 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Coffeepilot1
Maybe or a new start somewhere else. Management for sure aren’t going to share any good news during negotiations. UPS outlook during their earnings showed volume growth 2nd half of the year, one would assume at FDX too.
UPS is laying off feeder drivers. Freight is down. Coyote is laying off brokers. UPS is parking MD-11s too. And their freight is down, like ours. They were wrong.
https://www.freightwaves.com/news/to...e-year-for-ups

Originally Posted by magic rat
Rolled through CDG a couple days ago, daytime, I could count about 27-30 737s all sitting on our ramp.
How many of those jets were there before the CDG consolidation and flying for TNT?
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Old 05-02-2023 | 10:08 PM
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[QUOTE=PurpleToolBox;3632014]UPS is laying off feeder drivers. Freight is down. Coyote is laying off brokers. UPS is parking MD-11s too. And their freight is down, like ours. They were wrong.
https://www.freightwaves.com/news/to...e-year-for-ups



I was referring to their last Qtr, forecast(future) moving forward. Second half of year volume increase predicted to increase. Who knows if that’s true because it’s in the future. "The good news is we've seen volume stabilize in the month of April. So, I think some of the macros and volume is sort of is hitting a low in the second quarter. I would expect volume growth to rebound relative to the second quarter in the second half of the year"

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