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Old 02-14-2024, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Stan446 View Post
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What part of CGN closing don't you understand. Hardly defeatist that people think we are going to get some magic scope clause the prevents the company from closing bases. We'll spend captial trying to get scope clause that won't prevent the company from doing what they want internationally.
we all liked you better when you were moping about the failed TA. now you’re just that angry old dude railing against the movement. your voice has been heard. we know you don’t like the majority decision. maybe sit this one out. this fight ain’t for you.
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Old 02-14-2024, 06:14 AM
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What part of CGN closing don't you understand. Hardly defeatist that people think we are going to get some magic scope clause the prevents the company from closing bases. We'll spend captial trying to get scope clause that won't prevent the company from doing what they want internationally.
Why don’t you just say the quiet part out loud? You are secure in your seat even if the airline shrinks while outsourced flying grows and you don’t care about anything other than Sec 28. That can be your opinion and at least it wouldn’t be veiled in obvious mistruths. Claiming that nothing can be done about this outsourced flying or securing flying for MSL flying is simply not true.
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Old 02-14-2024, 07:10 AM
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Fdx management is trying to make this place like an Uber or an airbnb of freight. They will use their technology and hubs to sell a service and use as few FDX employees as possible and as many contractors as they can, from airplanes to last mile delivery. This is the new business model. Our scope has always been weak. I am not sure why people havent seen this coming for the last ten years and for the life of me I dont know how they got so many CovidNew hires when all the others have been hiring gangbuster for 6 years or so.

When you get deliveries at your house when is last time an XPRESS employee delivered it? For me its when my USAA debit card gets compromised and they send me a new one and thats about it. This is the new way and not sure how much we can really do to stop it.
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Fdx management is trying to make this place like an Uber or an airbnb of freight. They will use their technology and hubs to sell a service and use as few FDX employees as possible and as many contractors as they can, from airplanes to last mile delivery. This is the new business model. Our scope has always been weak. I am not sure why people havent seen this coming for the last ten years and for the life of me I dont know how they got so many CovidNew hires when all the others have been hiring gangbuster for 6 years or so.

When you get deliveries at your house when is last time an XPRESS employee delivered it? For me its when my USAA debit card gets compromised and they send me a new one and thats about it. This is the new way and not sure how much we can really do to stop it.
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Old 02-14-2024, 11:27 AM
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How many A star 767 fly for UPS out of cologne? Seems like about 15-20. Hard to believe the are flying routes that are restricted by Law? so not only are they fly freight but they are wide body planes.

would like to see a direct comparison om which city pairs the 757 flew and the ASL 737 are flying.

I know so of the cologne flyoinh is going to MEM
I know you can find this info out for yourself on VIPS, but i'll save you the time. These cities were flown by the CGN bidpack, but as of April '24, ALL FLOWN BY ASL. CGN will be down to 4 cities, AMS, BCN, BSL, and HAJ. Let all of us know when you see any of that flying in the MEM57 bidpack.

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OPO
TLV (who knows)
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Old 02-14-2024, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Rum Runner View Post
I know you can find this info out for yourself on VIPS, but i'll save you the time. These cities were flown by the CGN bidpack, but as of April '24, ALL FLOWN BY ASL. CGN will be down to 4 cities, AMS, BCN, BSL, and HAJ. Let all of us know when you see any of that flying in the MEM57 bidpack.

ARN
BER
BUD
CPH
EMA (LGG and CDG)
HEL
MAD
MAN
MUC
MXP (from LGG)
OPO
TLV (who knows)
VIE
“ASL isn’t growing…”

NC committee member during a roadshow presentation last summer. Unconscionable.
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Why don’t you just say the quiet part out loud? You are secure in your seat even if the airline shrinks while outsourced flying grows and you don’t care about anything other than Sec 28. That can be your opinion and at least it wouldn’t be veiled in obvious mistruths. Claiming that nothing can be done about this outsourced flying or securing flying for MSL flying is simply not true.
Truth hurts but the company makes business decisions to make money, not employ you.
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Old 02-15-2024, 07:13 AM
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Truth hurts but the company makes business decisions to make money, not employ you.
And I pay ALPA to protect my job and keep my seat at the table.

*Thanks for making it crystal clear which side you’re on. Not unnoticed that you didn’t refute my comments when it comes to your own perspective. Sorry, you’re in the minority now. The loud minority. For the record many of us love this company and want nothing more than to see it succeed and maintain its place in the worldwide business community. We also want to make sure that we are a part of the future success.

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Old 02-15-2024, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by jackryan View Post
“ASL isn’t growing…”

NC committee member during a roadshow presentation last summer. Unconscionable.
Sounds like a straight up lie to me. Does the NC just believe whatever the company tells them and then regurgitate it to the membership.

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Old 02-15-2024, 08:25 AM
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If you add Stan to your ignore list (like I have for half of the people on JF) this place gets a lot more reasonable...
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