Originally Posted by 4a2c

Art Luby has told our MEC that the UPS Scope language is likely not enforceable on the international extraterritorial stuff, nice that they have the language but it also requires binding arbitration for any dispute and we all know how that will go. Wonder if IPA has ever filed a dispute ?

Scope, beyond what we have on the books (protecting the RLA area of ops) is a pipe dream and a fools errand. We will not be get anything near what some want so hopefully the proposal that is already on the table from the new scope committee is achievable. Grab much better data reports and do our best to prevent any type of job loss (furlough) against wet lease (for covered flying).

If purple pilots think we will bargain a scope clause that will increase our job footprint, beyond what the company will ordinarily do under their current business practices, we will all get tired, greyer and losing money waiting. No way we ever get released, maybe the NMB gets some pressure from the Flight Attendants unions but bottom line the NMB is a nasty governmental agency that serves business owners and the public, not employees.

Originally Posted by Mikey Donuts

Do you buy your kneepads in bulk or get them used from Stan?

Originally Posted by Mikey Donuts

Do you buy your kneepads in bulk or get them used from Stan?

Originally Posted by Stan446

You can keep whining but it doesn't change whats going to happen. You'll never get the, "scope clause", you want because Scope never was and never will be an issue. The company will do what they want. But yes, go ahead and give up real gains for the "ghost of Scope". So cry on this forum all you want but it won't change anything.

Originally Posted by hemaybedid

If TA1 would have passed, FedEx would be shopping or already have in place a 737 operator (see ASL), doing a large chunk of domestic flying. That’s how the scope was structured (block/credit). When they had to pay us, it would only be on 2.5 block vs 6 credit in a lot of instances. That’s why they wanted the change from credit to block. But have no fear, “they’ll never do that”.

Originally Posted by Stan446

You are kidding right? You think there are 737 freighters out there? You could have at least done a bit of looking to even post that laughable statement. Yep, You are right. FedEx wants to dramtically change its WHOLE operation to 737 domestic frieghters. Cmon, post something credible.

ASL isn't a US operator.

Originally Posted by JackStraw

Showing how out of touch you are again. Look into Atlas Air, champ.

Originally Posted by max8222

Looks like you better get your resume to Atlas or a major champ!