ASL, Scope, and You
#31
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So let's look at the facts we have. Does ASL have enough capacity to takeober a significant portion of the europena flying that the CGN base currently operates? No it does not.
Could it takeover 50% of it? No it could not anytime soon.
Did fedex state it was going to ceede all european flying to ASL? No they did not. In fact the specifically stated that the MEM 75 would be supporting European ops as it has been for years and did massively during covid.
#32
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What are you talking about? Stop blowing it up into what it’s not. It’s all based on the last award of which many haven’t been trained yet.
For example, MEM loses 25 77CA. That 25 is not from the active 777 CA list. The sky is not falling, it’s a realignment bid and junior guys are going to get moved around but no real losses.
Scope on the other hand could be an issue.
#DELTA+ #SCOPE #NO CONCESSIONS
For example, MEM loses 25 77CA. That 25 is not from the active 777 CA list. The sky is not falling, it’s a realignment bid and junior guys are going to get moved around but no real losses.
Scope on the other hand could be an issue.
#DELTA+ #SCOPE #NO CONCESSIONS
#33
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that's the point I'm making they're pretty maxed out already and they don't just fly for us.
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#35
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#37
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Yeah and that seat has a really high proportion of pilots in NOQ/Pay Only. There are 416 on the master list and only 304 actually flying the line. Literally 25% of that list isn’t touching the throttles.
#38
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The realignment bid was always going to happen, and we all knew this because the MDs were always on the block to be retired. The MEC and NC once again react rather than make an early plan to us all. We also know that we as in Express will not show a profit during contracts.
What concerns me is if and this is pure speculation, what did NC give up for us in order for us to operate in a cost savings manner. For example, tying our pay to profit, any accountents reading this know that a slight of pencil will kill the profits meaning our pay will not be as we will be lead to believe. The NC and MEC have not been forthright in anything. The company has a long term goal and our NC and MEC are reactive puppets.
I would put money down the TA will not come out until this economy starts crashing. That is when at least 50% of the membership will be afraid and agree to what is put in front of them. Whatever he NC and MEC push on us in a positive manner pay attention to and read what we gave up. We are 5000 plus different individuals who will vote for what they believe is best but look at our history and see how much we have given up because we trusted the MEC and NC or Company
Quick question is someone in our MEC is still collecting 100 hours of a pay a month even though they have been grounded for 6 months. Shouldn't disability be paying this person's salary?
What concerns me is if and this is pure speculation, what did NC give up for us in order for us to operate in a cost savings manner. For example, tying our pay to profit, any accountents reading this know that a slight of pencil will kill the profits meaning our pay will not be as we will be lead to believe. The NC and MEC have not been forthright in anything. The company has a long term goal and our NC and MEC are reactive puppets.
I would put money down the TA will not come out until this economy starts crashing. That is when at least 50% of the membership will be afraid and agree to what is put in front of them. Whatever he NC and MEC push on us in a positive manner pay attention to and read what we gave up. We are 5000 plus different individuals who will vote for what they believe is best but look at our history and see how much we have given up because we trusted the MEC and NC or Company
Quick question is someone in our MEC is still collecting 100 hours of a pay a month even though they have been grounded for 6 months. Shouldn't disability be paying this person's salary?
#39
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With a full DSA bank of 686, current year regular sick of 72, and 216 hours of VAC you can go 9 and 3/4 months at 100 per month. Can stretch it a lot longer if you reduce your monthly BLG by half as is any pilot's prerogative to do in order to delay going out on LTD. Perhaps you should ask your question Tues at the joint council meeting. Or call your rep. Just a thought.
#40
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Except for the minimum two aircraft wet leasing referred to above,
during the bid periods described in this paragraph, the Company
shall not wet lease more than the net gain of trunk aircraft scheduled
to be added and brought into service in any calendar year.
Should, at the end of the calendar year, the Company actually
bring into service fewer trunk aircraft than were scheduled and
based on the schedule, the Company wet leased more aircraft
than would have been permitted if the scheduled additions were
the same as the actual deliveries, then the Company shall pay to
the Association the same monies it would have paid the Association
as calculated under Section 1.B.6.a.
during the bid periods described in this paragraph, the Company
shall not wet lease more than the net gain of trunk aircraft scheduled
to be added and brought into service in any calendar year.
Should, at the end of the calendar year, the Company actually
bring into service fewer trunk aircraft than were scheduled and
based on the schedule, the Company wet leased more aircraft
than would have been permitted if the scheduled additions were
the same as the actual deliveries, then the Company shall pay to
the Association the same monies it would have paid the Association
as calculated under Section 1.B.6.a.


