Mass exodus
#31
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Joined APC: Aug 2021
Posts: 167
No offense, but I'll take your info with a grain of salt unless you have more details on the source of your info. What's your number? I'm inclined to take my information from valid sources like the MEC and my rep than an anonymous person on APC. If you have accurate details, I'll listen but in the end, APC isn't my first stop for facts. If it was 5, 7 or 10 when the dust settled, that's still not 100. For now, I'll stick with the number my trusted source offered and follow up with them for any corrections.
#32
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Joined APC: Jan 2023
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When I first got here, I always thought it was funny when captains would tell me “I’m just building time for Delta.”
Who knew it would actually be the case! 😂
When you absolutely, positively have to get to Delta or United… FedEx.
Who knew it would actually be the case! 😂
When you absolutely, positively have to get to Delta or United… FedEx.
#33
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Joined APC: Aug 2019
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[QUOTE=jackryan;3633155]When I first got here, I always thought it was funny when captains would tell me “I’m just building time for Delta.”
Who knew it would actually be the case! 😂
Nice story. But if someone is a pilot at FedEx they already meet the requirements for Delta and UA.
Who knew it would actually be the case! 😂
Nice story. But if someone is a pilot at FedEx they already meet the requirements for Delta and UA.
#34
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Joined APC: Dec 2010
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We have lost a lot more than 2, and we're about to lose a LOT more.
We have no scope protecting the majority of our good flying, and the only flying that is protected to some degree is our brutal domestic system where you're either doing night hub turns, extremely long duty day hub turns in the day, or trips that flip back and forth constantly, or maybe you'll get lucky and do out-and-backs and have to go to your crashpad in MEM every day hoping a bullet doesn't come through the wall. And the best part is that our domestic hotels are rather low end (we stayed at the same places or even nicer places at the regionals) with the crowd that comes with those types of hotels making noise all the time while you're trying to sleep.
Seniority here means little in your day to day life as a fedex pilot.
If you have a good trip, they will revise you into flying the awful OT trips for little to no extra pay while a junior pilot gets offered your trip at 150%.
If you want to bid a certain seat on a system bid, you might not get it while someone who is years junior to you does.
We have like two and a half good things here, retirement, vacation and line bidding. The half is line bidding because we've given up most of the perks of line bidding already and a lot of our pilots are stuck with an awful version of PBS. The rest of our contract lags behind the legacies and even some regionals.
We have no scope protecting the majority of our good flying, and the only flying that is protected to some degree is our brutal domestic system where you're either doing night hub turns, extremely long duty day hub turns in the day, or trips that flip back and forth constantly, or maybe you'll get lucky and do out-and-backs and have to go to your crashpad in MEM every day hoping a bullet doesn't come through the wall. And the best part is that our domestic hotels are rather low end (we stayed at the same places or even nicer places at the regionals) with the crowd that comes with those types of hotels making noise all the time while you're trying to sleep.
Seniority here means little in your day to day life as a fedex pilot.
If you have a good trip, they will revise you into flying the awful OT trips for little to no extra pay while a junior pilot gets offered your trip at 150%.
If you want to bid a certain seat on a system bid, you might not get it while someone who is years junior to you does.
We have like two and a half good things here, retirement, vacation and line bidding. The half is line bidding because we've given up most of the perks of line bidding already and a lot of our pilots are stuck with an awful version of PBS. The rest of our contract lags behind the legacies and even some regionals.
#35
We have lost a lot more than 2, and we're about to lose a LOT more. Seniority here means little in your day to day life as a fedex pilot.
If you have a good trip, they will revise you into flying the awful OT trips for little to no extra pay while a junior pilot gets offered your trip at 150%.
If you want to bid a certain seat on a system bid, you might not get it while someone who is years junior to you does.
If you have a good trip, they will revise you into flying the awful OT trips for little to no extra pay while a junior pilot gets offered your trip at 150%.
If you want to bid a certain seat on a system bid, you might not get it while someone who is years junior to you does.
#36
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Joined APC: Jan 2023
Posts: 80
Pilots have a seniority # for scheduling their monthly flying.(during month prior) It is not a “superiority #” to take flights away from junior pilots because he doesn’t like what happened to his schedule dynamically by the company! Business needs some flexibility! Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose!
#37
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Joined APC: Dec 2010
Posts: 3,099
Pilots have a seniority # for scheduling their monthly flying.(during month prior) It is not a “superiority #” to take flights away from junior pilots because he doesn’t like what happened to his schedule dynamically by the company! Business needs some flexibility! Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose!
If you need to revise me to give me trip that still needs to be flown to a junior pilot... F'n pay me for it.
Why is the junior pilot getting 150% to fly my trip to my home city with a backend DH and I'm getting revised into a trip to a different city and I only get straight pay?
Revision pay needs to be 200% to stop this nonsense. Seniority means nothing here if the company isn't going to be penalized for violating it.
#38
318 was discussing abrogating seniority where it is not. Every Airline and Air Lines has revisions and extensions, etc. None of their contracts prevent these things, but they do have better language to deal with it.
#39
"business needs some flexibility" - tell me you're a company apologist without telling me you're a company apologist. No wonder why you're defending the pillaging the company did to sec 24 in the other thread.
If you need to revise me to give me trip that still needs to be flown to a junior pilot... F'n pay me for it.
Why is the junior pilot getting 150% to fly my trip to my home city with a backend DH and I'm getting revised into a trip to a different city and I only get straight pay?
Revision pay needs to be 200% to stop this nonsense. Seniority means nothing here if the company isn't going to be penalized for violating it.
If you need to revise me to give me trip that still needs to be flown to a junior pilot... F'n pay me for it.
Why is the junior pilot getting 150% to fly my trip to my home city with a backend DH and I'm getting revised into a trip to a different city and I only get straight pay?
Revision pay needs to be 200% to stop this nonsense. Seniority means nothing here if the company isn't going to be penalized for violating it.
Scheduling shenanigans these past few years were very rare or never happened in the past. Yes, contract needs improvement, I don’t think PILOT has stated otherwise! Bigger penalties, however, will not change these things! Company will pay them without even caring about them! So the behavior is not going to change. Proof is all the draft and extremely expensive deadhead tickets that far exceeds any airline’s penalties! So money improves your pay, but doesn’t stop the madness!
I think it’s time for you to take action to make yourself happy! You deserve to be treated better than here at FedEx. Take the time you’re not taking to understand the contract and use it to apply somewhere you can be happy and excited to go to work. Life is too short to be miserable.
#40
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Joined APC: Apr 2023
Posts: 139
We have lost a lot more than 2, and we're about to lose a LOT more.
We have no scope protecting the majority of our good flying, and the only flying that is protected to some degree is our brutal domestic system where you're either doing night hub turns, extremely long duty day hub turns in the day, or trips that flip back and forth constantly, or maybe you'll get lucky and do out-and-backs and have to go to your crashpad in MEM every day hoping a bullet doesn't come through the wall. And the best part is that our domestic hotels are rather low end (we stayed at the same places or even nicer places at the regionals) with the crowd that comes with those types of hotels making noise all the time while you're trying to sleep.
Seniority here means little in your day to day life as a fedex pilot.
If you have a good trip, they will revise you into flying the awful OT trips for little to no extra pay while a junior pilot gets offered your trip at 150%.
If you want to bid a certain seat on a system bid, you might not get it while someone who is years junior to you does.
We have like two and a half good things here, retirement, vacation and line bidding. The half is line bidding because we've given up most of the perks of line bidding already and a lot of our pilots are stuck with an awful version of PBS. The rest of our contract lags behind the legacies and even some regionals.
We have no scope protecting the majority of our good flying, and the only flying that is protected to some degree is our brutal domestic system where you're either doing night hub turns, extremely long duty day hub turns in the day, or trips that flip back and forth constantly, or maybe you'll get lucky and do out-and-backs and have to go to your crashpad in MEM every day hoping a bullet doesn't come through the wall. And the best part is that our domestic hotels are rather low end (we stayed at the same places or even nicer places at the regionals) with the crowd that comes with those types of hotels making noise all the time while you're trying to sleep.
Seniority here means little in your day to day life as a fedex pilot.
If you have a good trip, they will revise you into flying the awful OT trips for little to no extra pay while a junior pilot gets offered your trip at 150%.
If you want to bid a certain seat on a system bid, you might not get it while someone who is years junior to you does.
We have like two and a half good things here, retirement, vacation and line bidding. The half is line bidding because we've given up most of the perks of line bidding already and a lot of our pilots are stuck with an awful version of PBS. The rest of our contract lags behind the legacies and even some regionals.
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