Even the negotiating committee video fully admitted that givebacks in the scope section were traded for improvements in other sections. Why would you claim they just, "added a few small scope improvements?" Why would you write absolutely blatant spin, that nobody would buy, even those promoting the contract? I am very curious as to your motivation.

Scope is one of those issues that people don't pay too much attention to until it is under attack. And then, it's the most important issue. Anyone who wants to continue their career at FedEx cares about that. People thought they found their forever job, and now they're thinking about having to apply elsewhere, furloughs, lack of progression, long term reduced schedules, and this TA makes it easier for the company to do that. Why would anyone promote this?

 

Most major airlines tried their outsourcing experiment and it was a disaster for customer service, and employees of the legacy carriers and of the feeders. The union has never managed to prevent it. It shrinks via shortage of labor due to demographic decline and less human capital being dumb enough to embark on a “career” with this level of time and dollar investment to enter, with extreme risk of marrying oneself to an unstable corporation for life. It’s like a casino, and the individual loses all agency over their outcome despite having stepped up to the plate. If the company is determined to farm out flying I doubt our pay, retirement, and quality of life concessions would stop it.

 

Exactly, strong Scope is what would stop the company from farming out flying.

And yes, they are determined. Our TA'd Scope language tells us that much.

I feel like both our new executive management and our NC are in agreement: treat this company like a carcass, and act like a scavenger. Tear off as much meat as you can, then run off and hide.

 

Nailed it.

When I read the nc and reps defense of the scope givebacks, it reminds me of people who say, "Well, you'd may as well lay back and try to enjoy yourself, since there's nothing you can do to stop it. And if you go along without fighting, you might not get murdered, too." Not to sound ridiculously extreme or crass, but that's the same sort of mentality.

 

Well said!

 

Then show us the math genius! Oh and it won’t be current pilots but include those retiring and the ones the company puts out on the street on furlough

 

The only reason to rationalize this TA is if you personally benefit by immediately retiring. At the expense of anyone left here long term.

 

We are the laughingstock of the industry with this TA. And there are a lot of issues and unknowns with the MBCBP. The modeler assumes the IRS limit increases with inflation. That’s not always the case. Without cash over cap, the MBCBP is risky. Clearly you must be about to retire to push this garbage.

 

SCOPE
The first section of the TA is §1. Recognition, Scope, and Successorship. Scope has drawn a great deal of attention lately, and given the communications we have recently received from the highest level of management, it is understandable that many of us are fearful for our future jobs. Our Negotiating Committee Chair addressed scope at length during our April Joint Council Briefing and we can view that address in a YouTube video. While you might have been prepared then for no improvements in our scope language, I doubt you were prepared for a degradation. With more flexibility to wet lease and lower monetary penalties, our scope protection has actually been significantly weakened.
In exchange for that concession, we have what I consider to be symbolic improvements for wet leasing during §4.A.2.c. and during furloughs. While The Company cannot enter into any new wet lease agreements or extend or renew wet lease agreements during §4.A.2.c., they can enter into any number of long-term wet lease agreements on one day and invoke §4.A.2.c. the next day, and continue those wet lease agreements.
Additionally, there is no limit on wet lease agreements while under §4.A.2.c. during the “true” peak weeks of the year. Of grave concern is the price we have established for wet leasing while any pilot is on furlough – as low as ½ of the cost of a Captain and two First Officers for the same block hours.
It is my belief that most FedEx pilots will find the combination of weaker scope protections offset only by symbolic improvements unacceptable, and many will not need to read any further to determine their vote. Pay rates, retirement benefits, and work rules are irrelevant if jobs are lost.

Direct words from Tony C. You won’t be able to argue against them because you can’t…no smoke and mirrors, no BS. Prove him wrong…oh wait, you can’t.

And why don’t you go read some other forums on this website. We’re already the laughing stock because of this POS

 

And why don’t you go read some other forums on this website. We’re already the laughing stock because of this POS[/QUOTE]

You really care what anyone else thinks? And other than a short post on DL, no one else is talking about our TA. Its just a TA vote Yes or No.