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06-22-2023, 12:14 AM
#41
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[QUOTE=Shaman;3654415]Well here's another prime example of why this pilot group has never ever achieved meaningful gains and will watch quality of life erode further contract after contract. I truly appreciate the long winded speeches from the I'm voting yes crowd who failed to improve retirement in 2015 and previous contracts. They said the same exact 💩 in 2015.
You really don't have a clue whats been going on at FedEx for the past 25 years or more, do you? Keep spewing the hate and posting the pipe dreams of what you think your dream TA should be.
You really don't have a clue whats been going on at FedEx for the past 25 years or more, do you? Keep spewing the hate and posting the pipe dreams of what you think your dream TA should be.
06-22-2023, 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Laughing_Jakal
...Whether you think it is enough or not, the truth is, that the retirement system was improved and you will benefit from it.
06-22-2023, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by CloudSailor
At the expense of our quality of life through multiple concessions, while not achieving even close to industry leading payrates, and managing to divide our group further in future negotiations.
06-23-2023, 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Laughing_Jakal
Did you go to a Roadshow? I learned some things about items I was unhappy about......you can still "Boycott" the roadshow. They filmed this one, so you can watch without anyone knowing....just make sure you lock the door so everyone will assume you're watching porn ;-)
I know the Road Show allows you to feel better about your decision to vote Y and head out without looking in the rearview mirror. That's what it is designed to do. This TA is targeted specifically at you, headed out the door.
It'll be difficult for pilots with remaining careers here to defeat this TA, when both the company and the union have the goal of passing this by just barely better than 50%.
06-23-2023, 05:09 AM
#45
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Originally Posted by Laughing_Jakal
You could just say "I'm a No vote because I don't care about what happens to the people who retire after working a whole career here because I want more".....
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It’s not that people want more, it’s that we deserve more.
06-23-2023, 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by CloudSailor
I get you are ready to retire brother. If I were in your shoes, I would be feeling the same way.
I know the Road Show allows you to feel better about your decision to vote Y and head out without looking in the rearview mirror. That's what it is designed to do. This TA is targeted specifically at you, headed out the door.
It'll be difficult for pilots with remaining careers here to defeat this TA, when both the company and the union have the goal of passing this by just barely better than 50%.
I know the Road Show allows you to feel better about your decision to vote Y and head out without looking in the rearview mirror. That's what it is designed to do. This TA is targeted specifically at you, headed out the door.
It'll be difficult for pilots with remaining careers here to defeat this TA, when both the company and the union have the goal of passing this by just barely better than 50%.
06-23-2023, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Corned Beef
It’s not that people want more, it’s that we deserve more.
This is business, not a love story.
06-23-2023, 08:55 AM
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What can we command in the marketplace?
Not much if we take the first offer without pushing back. The company negotiates like a sociopath, whereas the pilot group are more like obedient Christians, or loyal troops with old fashioned values like hard work, honesty! The corporate leadership and government betrayed the social contract decades ago.
06-23-2023, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Hacker15e
Nobody "deserves" anything -- we are only worth what we can negotiate.
This is business, not a love story.
This is business, not a love story.
06-23-2023, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by CloudSailor
I get you are ready to retire brother. If I were in your shoes, I would be feeling the same way.
I know the Road Show allows you to feel better about your decision to vote Y and head out without looking in the rearview mirror. That's what it is designed to do. This TA is targeted specifically at you, headed out the door.
It'll be difficult for pilots with remaining careers here to defeat this TA, when both the company and the union have the goal of passing this by just barely better than 50%.
I know the Road Show allows you to feel better about your decision to vote Y and head out without looking in the rearview mirror. That's what it is designed to do. This TA is targeted specifically at you, headed out the door.
It'll be difficult for pilots with remaining careers here to defeat this TA, when both the company and the union have the goal of passing this by just barely better than 50%.
Did you go to a roadshow?.....Personally I think other demographics make out a little better than me....I can't retire with full pension now and run.....not enough time here to make a serious dent with cash balance plan....the only thing in this for me is Pay rate and increased A fund eventually..
You never answered my question...I'm just curious....have you gone to a roadshow yet?
Some of these assertions you make are inaccurate and are sweeping generalizations.....PM me and call me....not to argue, but you can talk to a real person and hear my perspective.....if you still think I'm an idiot...then come back and tell everyone here. I'm not on facebook.......so I don't see what goes on there....used to be...but got a life which it seems I most recently surrendered to trolls on APC.
