I wish the union had provided us with a dollar figure for the company's savings by sunsetting the A plan. Ask them instead of me. The answer is in the $B's.

Scope, SMU bank, R16, VAC buyback, DRF/VLT/AVA changes, again ask our NC for the exact $ figures. I know it all will ad up to this being a Cost Neutral contract (with Scope provisions making it likely worse than that for us), just as FS said a few days after we were dumb enough to vote in 2015 TA1.

Us voting this Cost Neutered TA in a day before UPS's possible strike and the additional leverage that would provide us. Savings to the company? Again, in the $Bs.

 

Hey, we cross posted just so you know…I hit send, then had to edit to finish…

 

Late Saturday night, not gonna start building spreadsheets now. Principles don’t require them anyway.

A Simpler question for you:

Do you think restricting new hires to the MBCB Plan is a concession?

If it’s not cheaper for the company, then why won’t they be given a choice ?

In Transparency, Integrity and Unity (for Everyone),
DLax

 

It is not a concession for our pilot group as not one of us are giving up anything. It is a reality, other than government agencies, not many pensions exist in the US these days. Kind of like VOR approaches….they’re going away sometime. I think it’s essential that folks on property have a choice. The longer this goes on unrestricted the less likely you are to have anything that comes close to anywhere near 50% replacement value. If I were 24 and decided to stay with A Fund, I would hope that the pilot group would fight like hell to raise FAE with every contract. 169k won’t mean much 36 years from now, just like 130K does not represent what it did 24 years ago.

That line has to be drawn somewhere and a period where we ar3 no5 hiring seems th3 most equitable way to do it and then offering everyone on property their choice. Years ago, the Company offered to buy us out of our pension…ALPA soundly rejected the proposal as it was pennys on the dollar. They offered it to the other employee groups and they had very few takers…..the next time they didn’t offer a choice, They just froze everyone’s pension and enrolled them in another plan.

 

You haven’t figured that out by now? NC can tell you exactly what a delay will cost and how many people will retire each ,onto without retirement improvements….they can tell you how much you will lose each month in increased wages…..do you consider those losses to be concessions if you can’t make them back financially?

 

With better pay rates, QOL and Job Protection through Scope, you’ll definitely make it back. How about protecting the future for those behind? You can’t put a cost on that can you? It’s so funny how the NC and MEC put a POS before us to vote then say if we don’t it going to cost us money. How about get a TA that is worth voting for rather than talking about time value of money. If that’s how we negotiate, the company will keep doing the same thing every negotiation cycle and we will fall for it.

 

I guess you want us to have something like the National Debt clock for retirement. It started running back in Nov 2021 when our contract became amendable.

Not sure why we didn’t just capitulate the day after our amendable date - I mean there’s been about 13 guys a month retiring every month since then. It seems you were willing for the NC to keep fighting without doing the math then.

Do you see that an approach that is willing to divide, ends up being truly divisive? Any division rests squarely at the feet of those who chose that strategy.

If the MBCB Plan is truly an equivalent/ improvement for the broad spectrum of pilots who will be hired at FedEx in the future (i.e. it’s not a concession), then future pilots should be given a choice to also accept Option B “$290K A Plan Freeze + MBCP Plan”

Did the NC even ask for that non-divisive solution?

What other QOL/scheduling concessions were made to get that retirement bump?

Which lights were/are burning brighter….the Retirement Debt Clock…or the Retro Pay Clock?

The current structure of this TA makes it rather clear. Giddy Up! Time’s a wasting!!

In Transparency, Integrity & Unity (for Everyone),
DLax

p.s. Let’s stop rewatching Princess Bride & Shawshank Redemption. Let’s fire up “A Few Good Men”, and not fall asleep until the very end.

 

I can smell it...it is you. You somehow conflate "do your own research" with "only listen to my viewpoint", then admonish someone for listening to someone else's viewpoint, the "architects", throwing an appeal to authority logical fallacy in there for fun. It is bizarre.

 

You think unity is doing what the NC tells you and voting for something that only benefits guys like you, while selling out the most junior guys on the lot and dividing us into three distinct groups. It's an appalling take.

 

I have enjoyed reading all the viewpoints here and on JFs and on the TA website, and of course at the roadshow. In the end I voted against this TA. FedEx can do MUCH better after what we and our families went through during COVID. However, I do not believe the majority is in our favor this time around. I expect to see it passed come Monday morning.