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Old 07-24-2023 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Nordhavn
It is to him! He probably has 2 pensions, 1 year to retirement, a 48 inch waste line, and myocarditis.
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Old 07-24-2023 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BoomerBus
I think you NO voting snow flakes got caught up in the group think thing over small insignificant QOL issues. I hope the $billions we lost are worth it to you!
I don’t work for Fedex, but I will say a no vote is a huge failure by the union, not the members. Pilots want to vote yes to pay raises. It takes a catastrophic union failure to get to a no vote. You’re directing your anger in the wrong direction.
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Old 07-24-2023 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BoomerBus
I think you NO voting snow flakes got caught up in the group think thing over small insignificant QOL issues. I hope the $billions we lost are worth it to you!
I'm not even a FedEx pilot, but this is so great. You are the snowflake losing your mind that you didn't get your way now you're throwing a little tantrum.

Also, United got full retro pay after voting down their first TA (people like you over there panicked about that too) and it also paid out to retired pilots. So if you guys can get full retro you won't "lose $billions."

So chill out Boomer.
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Old 07-24-2023 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by BoomerBus
I think you NO voting snow flakes got caught up in the group think thing over small insignificant QOL issues. I hope the $billions we lost are worth it to you!
The proof of their significance or insignificance will only be ascertained when we see how the company reacts to our refusal to make such scheduling/QOL concessions in TA2.0.

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Old 07-24-2023 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by CloudSailor
The "vote this TA in to avoid furlough" sales job was all out fear tactic from our NC, desperate to vote this in.
It's always curious to me how MY NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE SPEAKS FOR ME right up until the TA comes out and it doesn't have everything everybody wanted, then suddenly the committee is just one giant failboat of incompetence and graft that has somehow turned against the pilot group for which it was negotiating. It makes me wonder why it is that the smartest people in the room are always right here in these forums but never on the negotiating committees.
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Old 07-24-2023 | 07:55 PM
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Yea why bother having the members vote...what do all the pilots actually flying the F lines know
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Old 07-24-2023 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkThyme
It's always curious to me how MY NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE SPEAKS FOR ME right up until the TA comes out and it doesn't have everything everybody wanted, then suddenly the committee is just one giant failboat of incompetence and graft that has somehow turned against the pilot group for which it was negotiating. It makes me wonder why it is that the smartest people in the room are always right here in these forums but never on the negotiating committees.
It only seems sudden because the pilots didn’t know what the NC was actually saying to the company until the TA was released. The MEC certainly did, but they weren’t tuned in to what a majority of the pilots were trying to tell them.

There’s smart people all around, and that should be recognized, acknowledged and respected. Hopefully, we do - moving forward - together!

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Old 07-24-2023 | 08:46 PM
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I know it’s supposed to be secret ballot, and I’m pretty sure the answer is no, but is there a way to make TA2.0 retirement retroactive to the amenable date but exclude, for example, the 83% of block 1 and others that were so quick to pull up the ladder behind them and sell my 20 yrs of QOL for a little extra in retirement?

Can I vote to only have retro retirement for the 17% that had the stones to fight for 100% of the crew force?

I’ll vote to include full retro retirement, I guess you two are just along for the ride. You’re welcome.
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Old 07-24-2023 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BoomerBus
Lagging and stagnated pay rates next 2 to 5 years never to be recouped.
800+ furloughed within next year
400 to 1000 senior pilots retiring under old TA $260,000 cap.
The new CFO and company will be laughing and celebrating all the way to the bank.
All you NO voters gave the company $Billions and took $Billions away from the pilots.
I hope you are happy!, I will not be shedding any tears for the NO voters who get furloughed or stuck at 2020 757 FO pay rates
For next 2 to 5 years.
Thanks again!
You’re welcome!!!
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Old 07-24-2023 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by BoomerBus
I think you NO voting snow flakes got caught up in the group think thing over small insignificant QOL issues. I hope the $billions we lost are worth it to you!


What the hell is wrong with you?
Do you think you’re the only one that can read and think and judge the consequences of a NO vote?
The majority disagrees with you and you are wishing for them to be furloughed? You’re the snowflake.
I hope you are just a troll because if you work here your posts are shameful.
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