max8222

I have Stockholm Syndrome about as much as everyone on here that did drop for draft all during early contract negotiations and now complain how crappy the TA was and how far behind we are industry standard.

Maybe if they didn’t play right into the company’s hand we would have a better than industry contract now. Face it they got played and we are paying for it now.

Globemaster2827

Just to clarify, I was a no voter mostly for Scope but also for pay rates, retro and retirement.

Allegedly R24's reduction to R16 was a trade off to get rid of Hotel Standby assignments. I guess that situation made that a push, but the real issue is this... FedEx will use long call first, especially when they're short. Why let someone go for 24 or 16 hours and pay someone else 150% to cover something they need covered? I don't know what the " solution" to that would be, but I know that currently those of us who live in base and bid RA and RB get a ton of paid days off at home. I don't want that messed with in exchange for some whack a mole on long call reserve. If people want more time off at home then move in base.

As for R24, currently when they're short, it's almost like bidding a line. If they throw you in a hotel then they were giving 6 hours leveling a day. Give you a trip? 6 hours leveling a day. Neither? Time off at home. That's a good deal for a commuter (or local), so why change it? People on long call are just mad they're getting called and that's part of it. Personally, I think that maybe we should keep it at 24, force them to only use Hotel Standbys that are in the bid pack, and then make them compare R24 leveling to RA and RB. If the low person on RA or RB is 6 hours, you shouldn't be calling in an R24 with 40+ hours of leveling to do a trip just because you can. I'm sure someone on here has a better idea though and I'd respect their opinion on it...

Globemaster2827

My conversation with my United buddy was before their new TA... If we could get that then great! I love doing ASBY... It's easy. I'd rather not do it on reserve if I can do nothing. 8 hours for it would be great when I'm burning make up.

Grizzman

You speak gibberish dude. Enough with the what everyone else did stuff. You are living in lala land. It's voted down and we move on to the next TA. Why can't some you guys let stuff go. If you ever have something traumatic happen in your life, you would realize holding on to the past is useless. Proving who was right or wrong is useless. Focus on your future and remember the enemy is the guys in offices taking our hard earned money for themselves.

max8222

I have moved on, but with the realism that the same complainers and chest thumpers are part of the reason we are where we are. I doubt they have changed any and will talk a big game but won’t give the real support when needed.

JustInFacts

If you don't get that we only have 2 recoveries and 2 launched at the most in a day, you don't understand the operation. As Max said, you are comparing apples to oranges when looking at reserve. You also knew what our reserve rules where when you got hired 8 years ago. How long were you in the hiring pool? If you were hired 8 years ago, that is the time frame that we were brining the guys on board who had been swimming in the pool for 2 years, plenty of time to figure out what was in our contract.

If you did a lateral bid or a down bid, who cares how many bids they ran while you were seat locked. You made your choice.

The poster I quoted mentioned a cash buy out of the A plan and that for example, someone with 25+ years would get $2.5million, someone with 10 years (40%) would get $1million (40%) and someone with 5 years would get 20%. That shows a complete lack of knowledge of how investing works. Using the 10 year pilot as the standard with a $1million buyout, someone with 25+ years would need to get about $4million to have the same benefit as the 10 year pilot got.

Bottom line is that a lot of the pilots complaining here about the TA are just out for themselves and making their own money grab while trying to create a division between the pilots who have been here 20+ years and the pilots hired within the last 10 years.

UnusualAttitude

Fortunately for the rest of us, you’re in the minority.

JustInFacts

That's the best you can come up with? LMAO!!!

Can't wait to see the huge improvements you get us in TA 2.0. You guys don't understand retirement funding, the company model, the NMB, or our current contract. The company is laughing at you!

Sunny1

I think NoWork might be posting under yet another name … lmao 🤣

FeverDream

"but I know that currently those of us who live in base and bid RA and RB get a ton of paid days off at home. I don't want that messed with in exchange for some whack a mole on long call reserve. If people want more time off at home then move in base."

This. Translation: "I'm not willing to lose my pile of cheese to preserve some other dude's pile of cheese." More division (commuters v. Memphis dudes). The point: Nobody's cheese should have gotten messed with. That's concessionary. Shouldn't have happened. Guess what, labor is more expensive than it was in 2015. You don't get to force trade-offs in productivity to compensate for that. NC appears to accept that we must always give something up to get something. That's how we arrived here.