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Old 11-01-2023, 03:16 AM
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If this actually changes anything I'll be shocked
that group is untouchable, and they know it.
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Old 11-01-2023, 07:24 AM
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Can I still get my water wrapped in a koozie and a chocolate on my pillow?
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Old 11-01-2023, 11:10 AM
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We should have a RFT code similar to PNP. When you drop RFT it removes someone from the trip you want, puts them in SUB, and you get it. Would be fun to watch those play out.
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Old 11-01-2023, 12:42 PM
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We should have a RFT code similar to PNP. When you drop RFT it removes someone from the trip you want, puts them in SUB, and you get it. Would be fun to watch those play out.
How exactly would that work? By seniority? So a senior guy gets put into sub, and he starts a RFT chain that moves a couple hundred numbers down the seniority list?

I am sure the junior guys would love that.
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Old 11-01-2023, 01:46 PM
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How exactly would that work? By seniority? So a senior guy gets put into sub, and he starts a RFT chain that moves a couple hundred numbers down the seniority list?

I am sure the junior guys would love that.
Yeah, it would be great --- kinda like if we allowed the company to block off X Student Lines in each bidpack each month.
Then X guys would pick up about X times AVG BLG worth of the best trips in the View/Add window, and the #1 VTO would become the #1 + X VTO....and every VTO behind him would shuffle back X spaces too.
VTO pilots would get less trips and more reserve built into their lines.
And the amount of Open Time released at the beginning of the bid month would go "poof".
Well, that's until the company realizes they only need X less FOs overall.
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Old 11-01-2023, 02:25 PM
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How exactly would that work? By seniority? So a senior guy gets put into sub, and he starts a RFT chain that moves a couple hundred numbers down the seniority list?

I am sure the junior guys would love that.
I posted that primarily as a joke with the context being there are a small handful of pilots who receive preferential treatment. My joke was, wouldn’t it be awesome if there is a bank called RFT (remove from trip) which we could use when the wolf pack miraculously grabs the best charters and xtra pairings in an unfair way….POOF, their trip is gone and now they’re in the hell that is SUB. If I had such a bank as RFT I wouldn’t use it on anyone other than the pack.

No, it could not be used to remove a trip that was assigned from a seniority bid (TRP), only from trips grabbed out of open time (not seniority based).

again, just a joke, but kind of funny to imagine getting a crew notification “you’ve been removed from trip due to RFT. You’re now in SUB!”
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Old 11-01-2023, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Fr8Master View Post
I posted that primarily as a joke with the context being there are a small handful of pilots who receive preferential treatment. My joke was, wouldn’t it be awesome if there is a bank called RFT (remove from trip) which we could use when the wolf pack miraculously grabs the best charters and xtra pairings in an unfair way….POOF, their trip is gone and now they’re in the hell that is SUB. If I had such a bank as RFT I wouldn’t use it on anyone other than the pack.

No, it could not be used to remove a trip that was assigned from a seniority bid (TRP), only from trips grabbed out of open time (not seniority based).

again, just a joke, but kind of funny to imagine getting a crew notification “you’ve been removed from trip due to RFT. You’re now in SUB!”
OK, if we could only use it against the Wolf Pack, I would be 100% on board.
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Maybe if scheduling and management adhered to the new code of Ethical Conduct that our CEO kindly outlined and sent to everyone’s email inbox then we wouldn’t need an FCIF to tell us about behavior. This is a 2 way street.

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Maybe if scheduling and management adhered to the new code of Ethical Conduct that our CEO kindly outlined and sent to everyone’s email inbox then we wouldn’t need an FCIF to tell us about behavior. This is a 2 way street.

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"management"......."scheduling"........"CEO"...... ........"ethics"

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Please riddle me this, one of these individuals had this scenario. Listed as SCK on RA…he gets released for a sweet trip (again while SCK) and is well in time for show? So he has three lines at same time, RA, REL, and SCK. Only way I can figure it out is that they called him while SCK, said I have a sweet trip (usual skymiles finders fee applies), he accepts, gets released by CRS, then gets online a day later to click well in time for trip.

Am I missing something? How can one get released while SCK?
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