Bout time!
11-03-2023, 12:12 PM
#21
Line Holder
Joined APC: Mar 2011
Posts: 66
Originally Posted by magic rat
Please riddle me this, one of these individuals had this scenario. Listed as SCK on RA…he gets released for a sweet trip (again while SCK) and is well in time for show? So he has three lines at same time, RA, REL, and SCK. Only way I can figure it out is that they called him while SCK, said I have a sweet trip (usual skymiles finders fee applies), he accepts, gets released by CRS, then gets online a day later to click well in time for trip.
Am I missing something? How can one get released while SCK?
Am I missing something? How can one get released while SCK?
11-04-2023, 07:20 AM
#22
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2023
Posts: 299
Originally Posted by DLax85
Yeah, it would be great 
--- kinda like if we allowed the company to block off X Student Lines in each bidpack each month.
Then X guys would pick up about X times AVG BLG worth of the best trips in the View/Add window, and the #1 VTO would become the #1 + X VTO....and every VTO behind him would shuffle back X spaces too.
VTO pilots would get less trips and more reserve built into their lines.
And the amount of Open Time released at the beginning of the bid month would go "poof".
Well, that's until the company realizes they only need X less FOs overall.
Yes - chain reactions are real
DLax
--- kinda like if we allowed the company to block off X Student Lines in each bidpack each month.Then X guys would pick up about X times AVG BLG worth of the best trips in the View/Add window, and the #1 VTO would become the #1 + X VTO....and every VTO behind him would shuffle back X spaces too.
VTO pilots would get less trips and more reserve built into their lines.
And the amount of Open Time released at the beginning of the bid month would go "poof".
Well, that's until the company realizes they only need X less FOs overall.
Yes - chain reactions are real
DLax
So, we have about 5600 active pilots, and the average number of vacation days for them is about 25. That's 150 hours of vacation. Right now, we can sell back 40% of those hours, or 60 hours. If we are allowed to sell back 100% of those hours, that's a 90 hour difference. 90 hours is over 1 month of BLG in most months.
Now, let's say 25% of those 5600 pilots decided to take advantage of the 100% sell back. That's 1400 pilots. That would equate to 116 secondary lines, otherwise known as VTO (VACATIOn, training and other) that are not needed. That is 36% more lines than the 85 lines that you claim (though you have never actually provided the true number of LCA's) would be lost due to SMU.
Yes, chain reactions are real
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11-06-2023, 11:14 AM
#23
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Joined APC: Sep 2006
Position: 1st class
Posts: 250
Originally Posted by Xing30west
If this is true, where is our union? DART?
Just a rumor but I heard it was a 77 capt trying to get extended and a non compliant FO had an issue with it.
11-06-2023, 12:13 PM
#24
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Posts: 66
Originally Posted by WingOffLight
Thats not the situation that prompted the FCIF..
Just a rumor but I heard it was a 77 capt trying to get extended and a non compliant FO had an issue with it.
Just a rumor but I heard it was a 77 capt trying to get extended and a non compliant FO had an issue with it.
11-06-2023, 02:15 PM
#25
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Joined APC: Feb 2018
Posts: 106
Originally Posted by magic rat
Please riddle me this, one of these individuals had this scenario. Listed as SCK on RA…he gets released for a sweet trip (again while SCK) and is well in time for show? So he has three lines at same time, RA, REL, and SCK. Only way I can figure it out is that they called him while SCK, said I have a sweet trip (usual skymiles finders fee applies), he accepts, gets released by CRS, then gets online a day later to click well in time for trip.
Am I missing something? How can one get released while SCK?
Am I missing something? How can one get released while SCK?
11-06-2023, 05:14 PM
#26
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2010
Posts: 3,093
Originally Posted by WingOffLight
Thats not the situation that prompted the FCIF..
Just a rumor but I heard it was a 77 capt trying to get extended and a non compliant FO had an issue with it.
Just a rumor but I heard it was a 77 capt trying to get extended and a non compliant FO had an issue with it.
11-07-2023, 03:30 AM
#29
Fill'er Up Again
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: Scarebus Captain
Posts: 1,089
Originally Posted by max8222
Pilot and scheduler should be fired for offering bribes and accepting them for monetary gain, period.
11-07-2023, 03:45 AM
#30
Contract 2021
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: 777 - Both
Posts: 438
Originally Posted by FrankTheTank
100%. But this is what happens when you have incompetent Company leadership and a weak Union…
Or just maybe it’s individuals who have poor judgement and lack integrity. Bad choices by individuals (allegedly) which happens in every workplace. Please don’t play the victim card and point the finger at the “groups” when it’s clearly individuals. These are adults who will likely face consequences and has nothing to do with ALPA or Management.
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