he's not wrong. we'd rather have him here than you, honestly.

I have. My spouse does.

KEEP PBS FAR, FAR AWAY. It is poison and would be an even greater poison in our system.

PBS relies on open dialogues and shared control between the company and the union to even be marginally tolerable. It requires HIGHLY competent IT support. Does any of that sound suited to FDX?

NO!

And in a month with training it will ALWAYS therefore be on days off with very little daily credit. Among other conflict opportunities lost it means MORE work days for sure.

Errrr, not really. At DAL, absences like training and
vacation come with a significant credit value. Those absences are pre-posted and the value added to line value. Vacay at DAL is going to 4:35 and CQ is 5 hours.

Line construction windows are plus or minus 10 hours from the average line value and you have control over what line value you want. If you set a minimum schedule, it doesn’t take much to get you in the window. So if you have and a ALV of 75, and 3 days of CQ (2 training days and a travel day), that’s 15:00 towards the line value. You then award trips out of the trip pool until you get to 65:00 if you want a min schedule, you’re done, or it keeps going if you want more.

2 weeks of vacation is 14 x 4:35 = 64:10. Depending on the ALV, one one day trip may fill you up for the month. Outside your vacation days, you are free to pick up time if you want or you can tell the system you want a higher line value.

In a PBS world, it’s all about credit towards your obligation, not a specific number days off.

Great post, thanks for sharing. That’s more or less how our “secondary lines” work.

For everyone that cries about indusrty standard, Fedex 14 days vaction X6 hrs= 84 hrs pay compared to Delta 64:10. I am not a math major but I dont want industry standard for our vacation.

Yes, this is a great example of an industry leading item. Maybe you can run for NC or at least brief PM.

But according to Pat, we have to sell back the difference in vacation hours to be comparable to industry standard pay. 🤡. So is it really considered industry leading? And we still do much more third shift flying.

You weren't aware of this when you applied? How about when you accepted the job?

What I see is a bunch of people who aren't grounded in reality. The block 7 rep dropped a dose of facts. He admitted that his perception of the situation didn't match reality once he was allowed to see behind the curtain. Sorry it wasn't the answer you and some others were hoping for. Time will tell what the next TA looks like. Maybe we can put that TA off long enough so that age 67 or even 70 arrives. Wouldn't that be great!

My post wasn’t related to your rant.

(FYI not my block & not my LEC)

Just in facts:
Pancake Pat has zero credibility.
The NC/MEC sales job was pathetic.
Using our higher vacation hours but not D’s higher sick hours is ridiculous.

When someone was hired is irrelevant to wanting a better contract.