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Old 09-11-2025 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Callsignfrog
crazy that people would leave such a wonderful place 30 years ago to go back to the dumpy legacies……..idiots!!!!!!!!
Why haven’t you gone to a dumpy legacy?
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Old 09-11-2025 | 11:31 AM
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More bad news for FedEx…

https://www.benzinga.com/analyst-sto...-ups-and-fedex

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Old 09-11-2025 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Callsignfrog
crazy that people would leave such a wonderful place 30 years ago to go back to the dumpy legacies……..idiots!!!!!!!!
They were idiots because then 9/11 happened and then the financial crisis. Instead of being 20 wide body captains they maybe got a few years. Plus less hourly. I know we had a crap contract and we were all management shills but we still almost doubled their total pay if you compare careers.
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Old 09-11-2025 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by max8222
They were idiots because then 9/11 happened and then the financial crisis. Instead of being 20 wide body captains they maybe got a few years. Plus less hourly. I know we had a crap contract and we were all management shills but we still almost doubled their total pay if you compare careers.
ahhh well im happy you knew 9/11 and the financial crisis was coming when no one else did and you were able to make double the pay and it makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside.

“had a crap contract”, no, it’s still a crap contract, always has been.
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Old 09-11-2025 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by max8222
They were idiots because then 9/11 happened and then the financial crisis. Instead of being 20 wide body captains they maybe got a few years. Plus less hourly. I know we had a crap contract and we were all management shills but we still almost doubled their total pay if you compare careers.
Could you envision a new order where that may not be the case going forward? Covid showed the airlines are too big to fail. The public is still traveling and the “get my experiences in” economy is showing a stubborn resilience in the face of inflation and rising prices. Someone retiring from FDX with 2x-3x years now may be able to beat their chest about their good fortunes. I am unsure if in the next 2x-3x years we can be assured of your FDX experience to make it rain over a career span (insert BLG manipulation, reserve depletion, established covid schedule revision practices with a CBA that lacks proper guardrails)
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Old 09-11-2025 | 01:51 PM
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We had BLG manipulation and reserve games back in 2011-12. 4a2B is not a new thing.

Tell me in 20 years how things turn out. Until then it is all speculation for anyone’s career.
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Old 09-11-2025 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Yuko
Could you envision a new order where that may not be the case going forward? Covid showed the airlines are too big to fail. The public is still traveling and the “get my experiences in” economy is showing a stubborn resilience in the face of inflation and rising prices. Someone retiring from FDX with 2x-3x years now may be able to beat their chest about their good fortunes. I am unsure if in the next 2x-3x years we can be assured of your FDX experience to make it rain over a career span (insert BLG manipulation, reserve depletion, established covid schedule revision practices with a CBA that lacks proper guardrails)
I also believe the big three are too big to fail. But you’re never too big for a good old fashioned restructuring.
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Old 09-11-2025 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TsimShaTsui
I also believe the big three are too big to fail. But you’re never too big for a good old fashioned restructuring.
They may just be getting big enough to be broken up. It's happened many times in many industries.
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Old 09-11-2025 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Merle Haggard
They may just be getting big enough to be broken up. It's happened many times in many industries.
Give it another administration for the reverse pendulum swing. However, I would be surprised if that happened to the airlines.
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Old 09-11-2025 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by opas76
We keep whistling past the graveyard on this. It keeps getting worse.
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