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02-20-2025 | 09:34 AM

#11

EMBFlyer

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From: MD-11 FO

Quote:

Originally Posted by navigatro

would it be too much to ask if someone could post the actual bid?

thanks - from an interested outsider

Here?

Unfortunately, yes.

02-20-2025 | 12:45 PM

#12

Kipper

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Will this be a shuffle realignment type of thing where the Junior 777 Capts and FOs might get pushed out? Or any Junior “desirable” seat for that matter?? Not that any seat is exactly desirable these days. Some pay lots more than others though.

02-20-2025 | 01:06 PM

#13

Thrust Hold

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From: 767 CA

Quote:

Originally Posted by navigatro

would it be too much to ask if someone could post the actual bid?

thanks - from an interested outsider

Hiring

This bid assumes no pilot hiring through CY25.

Domicile Plans

The MEM MD-11 base will add 10 Captains and up to 20 First Officers.
The MEM B777 base will add 40 Captains and up to 10 First Officers.
The MEM Airbus base will reduce by 25 Captains and 65 First Officers.
The OAK B767 base will keep Captains and First Officers at the current level.
The IND B767 base will keep Captains and First Officers at the current level.
The MEM B767 base will keep Captains at the current level and add up 20 First Officers.
The MEM B757 base will reduce Captains by 10 and add 50 First Officers.

02-20-2025 | 01:08 PM

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KC10 FATboy

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It is an overall increase in airplanes. Sure doesn't fit the narrative that they're furloughing. LOL

02-20-2025 | 07:14 PM

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Merle Haggard

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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy

It is an overall increase in airplanes. Sure doesn't fit the narrative that they're furloughing. LOL

The "excess" is largely the result of intentional squeezing, optimization, and abusive implementation of contract language that is far too permissive (based on trust that is a vestige of a bygone era). It's a minor hiccup that has been intentionally morphed into a supposed staffing crisis. Remember when PD said we'd "be sorry" if we voted no? I believe this is our collective "punishment". That said, I'd vote no 1,000 more times and my resolve is only being strengthened by these petty games.

02-21-2025 | 05:47 AM

#16

Thrust Hold

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kipper

Yes, junior pilots in preferred seats will be displaced by pilots displaced from the fleets/seats being reduced.

Hence, ALPA sending out guidance with references to 23-01 and 24-01.

02-21-2025 | 07:45 AM

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Jumbo Pilot

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Originally Posted by Kipper

To be clear, since they are adding spots in the MD-11 and 777, no pilot will be forced out of those seats. Depending on where they want to go, some might be able to leave voluntarily.

JP

02-21-2025 | 08:46 AM

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Herkguy80

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jumbo Pilot

To be clear, since they are adding spots in the MD-11 and 777, no pilot will be forced out of those seats. Depending on where they want to go, some might be able to leave voluntarily.

JP

Incorrect, if enough senior FO's/captains on the Airbus or 75 Captains (the two seats being reduced) bid to either MD or 777 and fill all the vacancies then the bottom guys will start being pushed out.