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Old 02-22-2025 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Thrust Hold
Think bigger. Not just CA's. Junior FO's on WB's are likely to get excessed because of the very scenario that you've described.
I don't disagree. I was responsing to the premise that junior pilots in seats aren't protected. That depends on several factors and the example I gave refuted your suggestion. Junior OAK or IND 767 CAs are not in threat of being pushed out of their seats, so they ARE protected. This is not a system wide free-for-all. But, yes, junior FOs on WB could be at risk due to the circumstances.
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Old 02-22-2025 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Emmerson Bigs
I don't disagree. I was responsing to the premise that junior pilots in seats aren't protected. That depends on several factors and the example I gave refuted your suggestion. Junior OAK or IND 767 CAs are not in threat of being pushed out of their seats, so they ARE protected. This is not a system wide free-for-all. But, yes, junior FOs on WB could be at risk due to the circumstances.
My suggestion? Or the copied and pasted Q&A from 23-01, which highlights step by step how Displacements are processed?

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Old 02-22-2025 | 10:11 AM
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It looks like they are going to park the excess pilots as FOs on the 757..thus the additional 757 FO slots but negative Capts.
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Old 02-22-2025 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Thrust Hold
My suggestion? Or the copied and pasted Q&A from 23-01, which highlights step by step how Displacements are processed?
I don't know why ALPA chose to re-publish Q&A from 23-01/24-01 that's partially applicable to 25-01. I guess they expected pilots to have enough understanding of the process to filter out the portions that don't apply. There is a Q&A exclusively for 25-01 also, FYI. The first "component" of the four you cut and pasted applies to base closure. That's done. There are no base closures in this bid. Everyone in a seat that closed used their options related to that event already in 23-01. They all have a new position and that's what applies to 25-01, even if they're not activated in that position yet.

Maybe since there were uber senior pilots in the -11 bases closing in 23-01, it was easy to make blanket statements in the Q&A about not being protected in your junior seat. That may have applied system wide due to the seniority of those being displaced. But it doesn't now. There are very junior pilots in the seats with excesses and they don't have the same options as senior pilots in closing bases did on 23-01. So those who might opt to stand in for those being excessed don't have the same options either.

I think we're going around in circles on this. We'll see when the bid closes. My only point is that if no one bids out of IND or OAK CA seats, they you'll see the exact same names there when the bid closes as you do today.
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Old 02-22-2025 | 12:05 PM
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Think of it as reading a contract........you only need to apply the line items that are applicable to the current situation.
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Old 02-23-2025 | 01:33 PM
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Standby for M&A as this is the alignment bid for TA1.5 and the major announcement coming FY26. Can’t wait to retire as a junior 747 FO. Sad choices we make in this career.

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Old 02-23-2025 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by P-3Bubba
Standby for M&A as this is the alignment bid for TA1.5 and the major announcement coming FY26. Can’t wait to retire as a junior 747 FO. Sad choices we make in this career.

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747s? M&A?
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Old 02-23-2025 | 05:06 PM
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747s? M&A?
Mergers and Acquisitions. Maybe atlas?
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Old 02-23-2025 | 07:18 PM
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Atlas? Nah! Kalitta is a better fit.

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Old 02-24-2025 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by globalflair
Atlas? Nah! Kalitta is a better fit.

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Maybe they'll buy FedEx??
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