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07-31-2025 | 08:07 AM
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Well, the "horrible TA" that was voted down primarily for lack of scope protection has resulted in four years of lost wages and no scope impact despite the continuing lack of scope protection and the pearl clutching. Had the "No" voters not poisoned the well, The MEC would be beginning to negotiate the next TA from higher salaries and a smaller, younger pilot force working at full hour load, carving out whatever was not ideal from the last contract.
Turns out the "yes" voters weren't the malefactors, but denial is a strong defense mechanism.
Turns out the "yes" voters weren't the malefactors, but denial is a strong defense mechanism.
Scope was big. But a secondary factor.
I don’t think people understand how far down our pay was pushed in that TA. Southwest pilots would’ve out earned every pilot we have in every seat except the 777 and MD international pilots that achieve block over 8. We effectively got rid of wide body pay on that TA. No thanks.
07-31-2025 | 12:18 PM
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07-31-2025 | 12:36 PM
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08-01-2025 | 03:18 PM
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The fact half the meetings end because loss of quorum tells you how AFU this MEC is - worst in 20 years. Zero progress, zero leadership - thanks TC.
What happened to that "direct line" JG told us he had to the NMB? Why in the world does he need a formal letter - I figured he'd have Beebe on the phone in a minute with an answer. Oh unless that was all bull**** and we are right back where we were in March of 24 - having to plead for more meetings because we haven't figured this **** out.
What happened to that "direct line" JG told us he had to the NMB? Why in the world does he need a formal letter - I figured he'd have Beebe on the phone in a minute with an answer. Oh unless that was all bull**** and we are right back where we were in March of 24 - having to plead for more meetings because we haven't figured this **** out.
08-01-2025 | 03:18 PM
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Well, the "horrible TA" that was voted down primarily for lack of scope protection has resulted in four years of lost wages and no scope impact despite the continuing lack of scope protection and the pearl clutching. Had the "No" voters not poisoned the well, The MEC would be beginning to negotiate the next TA from higher salaries and a smaller, younger pilot force working at full hour load, carving out whatever was not ideal from the last contract.
Turns out the "yes" voters weren't the malefactors, but denial is a strong defense mechanism.
Turns out the "yes" voters weren't the malefactors, but denial is a strong defense mechanism.
Thank god that scope was voted down. Can’t believe we have so many “educated” pilots that can’t think outside the box or connect the dots until it’s too late. Just joking, the company would never do that.
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