I would ask you and everyone to stop arguing and row in the same direction, and try to have some semblance of unity, but that will never happen. The truth is, Tuck, that you and a good minority of the crew force will gladly vote yes on anything put before you so long as it has a pension bump and maybe a small pay raise. They could shut this place down and furlough everyone in exchange for $30K a year extra and you would vote yes. That’s the fundamental issue and that’s why we will
never be fully unified at this airline. Go ahead and recall the MEC and delay a new retirement another few years.

 

I’ve tried this line for 2 years. You are correct but they will never listen. Until we find a retirement solution to switch to that makes everyone happy instead of one that incentivizes single issue voting decisions to switch to we will always be divided. Can be as simple as just tying automatic raises to the pension. Or making pension raises retroactive back to amenable date. Both would eliminate the incentive to vote based on a single issue.

 

Wait… is it amenable or amendable?

 

There you go rowing in your own direction again. The MEC and NC have said that they are using polling data to ask for what the majority want. The NC has said that their retirement ask has been to keep the A plan for all pilots. So, every time you try to negotiate in public for something else, you are being divisive.

There are reasons you can't have an unlimited cap on a pension. If you listen to what the NC puts out, you would know why they can't make pension raises retroactive.

You seem to be a single issue voter, and have said that if our rates are one nickel less that Delta's, it's a NO from you. So why is your single issue more important than someone else's? I know, because you only care about rowing in the same direction if they let you decide the direction.

How about you get on board and stop negotiating against our NC!

 

Industry standard pay isn’t even a discussion. NC thinks the same thing.

Keep the pension. Doesn’t change that we must find a way to eliminate single issue yes votes. Since the pension is truly the only one that exists because of retirement dates, that’s the biggie that needs to be reevaluated. I don’t even blame the voters to be honest. What else are they realistically supposed to do? The system is what we should be mad at and what we have to change.

 

amenable date

 

And the NC has a retirement plan. So, are you going to row with them or are you going to keep rowing against them?

 

Everything is on the table until a TA is signed. That’s why TA1 failed because we didn’t like the NC’s “plans”

Would love to hear your thoughts on if my fears are valid or not that single item voting issues are harmful to our unity…

 

Tell me you don't know how Section 6 works without telling me you don't know how Section 6 works.

 

The context is that they’re taking about retirement.

He’s not implying every section of the contract is open to negotiation.