Soon,

Noone who knows will say. Noone who says knows.

 

How many have been hired so far? Does anyone know how many have interviewed? Approxomate quess?

 

I have been reading this thread for a while and I just have to add my two cents.

While people who have been keeping up with this thread may have read the warnings, others probably read the requirements from the website and I'm sure in more than a couple cases made an honest mistake like CloudSailor made 6 years ago. I am also sure some decided to apply knowing full well they were lying. As it stands right now, the application site states you need a current and valid FE written, it does not mention anything about 24 months and leaves the validity of the exam open to extension by means of FAR 61.39. It would be a lot easier to simply state that FedEx requires a FEW within the past 24 months, no room for interpretation or confusion or lying for that matter.

The application is a little cumbersome but it at least offers a last line of defense when you answer the questionnaire at the end and it asks you if you the information entered is true to the best of your belief or knowledge. If you lie after reading that, well, you have it coming.

I only mention this because I have also found myself in the unenviable position of having made this very mistake, having taken the exam the first time I applied in 2006 only to figure out I needed another one within 24 months by reading this thread but after signing up for my profile. As soon as I found out I took it and when I finally completed my profile and answered the questionnaire it was valid and current.

I hope there is room for an honest mistake in this whole process.

 

Thanks for the info Rico i did exactly what you did, thanks to everyone else also for your input on this matter. Very much appreciated.

 

At a recent new hire event the Chief Pilot said it would open in the near future. Perhaps even the powers that be don't know!

In response to another question posed to me:
The recent guy I know that got interviewed from the Regionals is a check airman there, in the sims. I'm pretty sure he had a sponsor. Of the other regional guys I know that got hired (in my class, etc.) most of them had sponsors and most were check airman, etc. The more you can say yes on the Profile, the better you are off, I'd guess. Get that tailwheel endorsement and a float rating!

 

They interview 6 at a time and twice a week. Sometimes less, but never more, from what I can gather.

So... 12/week and perhaps of those 12 average of 9 (just a guess) get hired.

9/week from May 1st on...so around 12 weeks = 108 hired
(I have no basis for this information, just totally guessing.)

I know that guys from the 1st of May hire date are just getting into class so from the sounds of it a pretty big "pool" has been built up.

...this ends the latest episode of "just speculating..." feel free to return the ranting and complaining...

 

Thanks. Good info.

 

Don't know the official wash out rate from the test, but a candidate that I recommended (someone else sponsored), SH dude of course, got weeded out by the test.

An officer & a gentleman, great pilot, great demeanor, would have been a pleasure to have as a crewmember in any role, SO, RFO, FO, CAP.

This new testing process appears to be having unintended consequences. From his debrief of the tests- they do not seem to capture inherent professional aviation knowledge, nor personal traits and characteristics that make up a "good" professional airline transport pilot.

IMHO, let the human element, line pilots, flt ops pers make the determination of a keeper or not, then run the testing, to make sure that they are not a complete moron.

I'd heard of other airlines using this process, letting the humans decide, then having an objective "test" CONTRIBUTE to a final decision resultin in hiring the "right" type of guys.

Some "cognitive" test doesn't capture a candidates instrument scan ability, or real skills like cockpit prioritization and multi-tasking aviating, navigating & communicating.

Every organization has the inidividuals that everyone wonders how they got hired, but weeding out the "type" of guy FDX wants by a test may not be the most effective. FDX is not looking for aviation trainees-a cog test might be good for initial mil pilots or initial fligt school -in a data driven predictor model of flight school success. FDX wants highly experienced pilots, that have good CRM skills, a breadth & depth of practical experience, and are fluent in the art of aviate, navigate, communicate. The candidate pool is deep enough such that HR should be able to "pick" candidates that have a proven training success- most expereinced pilots have successfully trained & qualified in multiple different platforms- a cog test is probably not the right discriminator if he can be trained on the MD- 75, 72 etc, if the guy already has X,000 hours in multiple platforms, or has X,000 hrs PIC.

Hopefully FLT Ops & HR can figure this out.

 

Well said Olly.

Seems like there have been quite a few casualties with the new system; I know of more than a few guys who have gotten knocked out in both the testing and interview portion that I thought would have been shoe-ins.

 

Olly,
Great common sense post, but I'm afraid the legal dept tail may be wagging the dog. I suppose they feel they can defend against lawsuits, if objective hiring data is used......just my guess.

To support your position, DAL doesn't even use a sim check. They assume you are a competent airman at this point. DAL does use the dreaded Cog Skill test to check for any injury or degradation of those previously demonstrated flying skills.

It is a huge disservice to FDX and the individual applicant if they are cut unnessarily.

Regards,
BG