If a guy had a trip that ended at an international location, he'd have a ticket on the company home. So saying someone was out $1,800 because they were denied a j/s isn't true. While denying a j/s to a crewmember may not be the nicest thing, its still capt's permission internationally. If a crewmember thinks he should be ****ed because he is trying to save DH money and can't get a j/s isn't right either. FX Capts had to fight to get Capt's authority from the company so no one should be complaining if a Capt exercises that right for whatever reason.

 

I believe he was referring to HKG FDA pilots commuting from the states, or returning from a visit stateside. No bank or dh from the company.

 

We also have Capt's who live overseas and commute.

Flew with one great Capt who lived in India and had some issues with the odd Capt

 

It isn't always 777 captains. Was denied a domestic Jumpseat on an 11 once.... Crew rest plane. Didn't want anyone up front I guess.

 

Seriously dude? Only at Fedex is a jumpseat seen as this huge power play by the captains. At any other airline there really isn't a question - the Captains readily give up the seats to any pilots - commuters, vacationers, whatever. For some reason at Fedex, the Captains make it a big deal. I'm not talking about the mechanics who want access to the cockpit, or the strange Fedex employee who wants to go around the world with no bags - I'm talking about just another fellow pilot who wants a ride. Here at Fedex I've seen captains murmur many times things like "can't believe what that guy is wearing to jumpseat", "jeez, he should have met us at the desk", and other similar things. It's just thought of as a common courtesy in most of the industry except for here. Now that's not the norm but it's happened enough times where it's left an impression on me - no, I'm not a commuter and I've never had any personal problems - these are actual Captains I've flown with that have done and said these things.

 

I agree. I can't imagine turning down another FedEx pilot for a jumpseat unless the guy was drunk or on drugs (never seen that happen). I'm certainly not going to turn someone down because I want more room in the cockpit. I really don't like having jumpseaters in the cockpit, but if it's required to give someone a ride, no problem. I can't imagine turning down a commuter guy or gal either, I really like it when they jumpseat on us, as an opportunity to finally return the favor.

As far as the guy who said he was out $1,800, there can be many reasons. Whether he was at an FDA, whether his bank was too low to pay for a ticket, whether he was just jumpseating to go on vacation somewhere, he was out a lot of money because someone wanted a little extra room in the cockpit (the stated reason). Leaving someone in a foreign country stranded, because you want some extra space. Is this what we fought to keep Captain's authority for? Ugh.

 

Now that's funny.

 

Asked to go to Paris once from MEM, where I would then be the RFO for the same crew. Capt said "no"....he had given permission to one JS and didn't want another.

Flew with a very gracious 777 crew on same date/city pair and enjoyed the ride.

It was the captain's call, and his right. That said...he is retired, and I don't miss him, nor does anyone I've ever given the name.

If you need a ride around Asia on my flights...welcome aboard. Sorry about the ****ter door, but I'll take as a many as want to go along...

 

At UPS there are captains who will not take jumpseaters on the 767. Total A S S H O L E S.........fact that one of them lives in PHX and regularly commutes on the pax airlines 737's and has no problems crowding those pilots but he is to good of a pilot to be crowded himself....

 

Unfortunately there are quite a few pilots that are retired that I won't miss Albie. Was Dick C. the Capt that denied you the J/S? That guy lived in his own private Idaho! I"m a 777 Capt and took 4 J/S from CGN to MEM a few month back. I will never leave a crew member behind if I have anything to say about it, probably even if he's a dick