Originally Posted by Tuck

Seriously dude? Only at Fedex is a jumpseat seen as this huge power play by the captains. At any other airline there really isn't a question - the Captains readily give up the seats to any pilots - commuters, vacationers, whatever. For some reason at Fedex, the Captains make it a big deal. I'm not talking about the mechanics who want access to the cockpit, or the strange Fedex employee who wants to go around the world with no bags - I'm talking about just another fellow pilot who wants a ride. Here at Fedex I've seen captains murmur many times things like "can't believe what that guy is wearing to jumpseat", "jeez, he should have met us at the desk", and other similar things. It's just thought of as a common courtesy in most of the industry except for here. Now that's not the norm but it's happened enough times where it's left an impression on me - no, I'm not a commuter and I've never had any personal problems - these are actual Captains I've flown with that have done and said these things.

Originally Posted by Tuck

Seriously dude? Only at Fedex is a jumpseat seen as this huge power play by the captains. At any other airline there really isn't a question - the Captains readily give up the seats to any pilots - commuters, vacationers, whatever. For some reason at Fedex, the Captains make it a big deal. I'm not talking about the mechanics who want access to the cockpit, or the strange Fedex employee who wants to go around the world with no bags - I'm talking about just another fellow pilot who wants a ride. Here at Fedex I've seen captains murmur many times things like "can't believe what that guy is wearing to jumpseat", "jeez, he should have met us at the desk", and other similar things. It's just thought of as a common courtesy in most of the industry except for here. Now that's not the norm but it's happened enough times where it's left an impression on me - no, I'm not a commuter and I've never had any personal problems - these are actual Captains I've flown with that have done and said these things.

Originally Posted by MacGuy2

Then what's your beef? I'm sure those who have been harmed can fend for themselves. Or do you just want to stir the pot?

MG2

Originally Posted by Waveoff

On a trip to HNL, I got to the top of the crew stairs in IND, and the guy that flew it in from ANC (a Tigers guy), and the guy that was flying it to OAK (a Purple guy), were having it out. Many words were said. Before departure the DC-10 s/o said, "the captain says if there's an emergency, there's the handset, otherwise don't call". (He was obviously under duress). Shortly after takeoff the lights and heat for our compartment were turned off. I don't know who I was sitting next to, or why, but for several hours, we exchanged sweaters to wrap around our feet because the cabin got below 30 degrees.

Originally Posted by Waldorf

Really? A story from almost 20yrs ago? We haven't had DC10s for almost 15yrs. And almost all of the Tigers guys are gone.

Originally Posted by busdriver12

So....if it doesn't happen to him, then why should he care? He should just shuddup and not talk about it?

If someone denies another pilot a ride (except for some bizarre, extenuating circumstance), they need to understand that other people will pass that information on, and people will consider them a tool. We are all in this together, and should be treating each other with consideration.

Originally Posted by MacGuy2

Because if it didn't happen to him, then he probably has NO idea what really happened or why it happened. So all he's doing is pitting one group of pilots against another. What's to be gained?

You are correct, we are ALL in this together and I'm more than happy to call someone out for a REAL transgression against a fellow pilot. But without names and details, this is just stirring the pot.

MG2