Wolf pack continues with impunity
12-30-2014 | 10:54 AM
#31
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From: B777 Capt
Seniority already has enough perks in monthly bidding, vacation bidding etc.
The status quo for decades is first come first serve for open time.
What are you going to give up in trade for this expanded use of seniority or will it just be a power grab?
The status quo for decades is first come first serve for open time.
What are you going to give up in trade for this expanded use of seniority or will it just be a power grab?
12-30-2014 | 11:11 AM
#32
On Reserve
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From: MD-11 FO
Concur. Jolly, so time based trip trading was good before but now that you may be senior in your seat you want seniority based trip trading? I'd rather lose out on some trips due to shady practices rather than give up all the trips I might get through our less than perfect open time process.
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12-30-2014 | 12:59 PM
#34
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Good Lord, seniority based trip trading? That must be a joke. Guys who are already getting the best trips wanting to not have to do the work, and even get more great trips. Then we'll never get these guys out of the seat.
12-30-2014 | 01:20 PM
#35
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From: 767 FO
I think it should be 1st come 1st served but I would like to see a window maybe every 4 hours for trips with a show within the next 4 days and 12 hours for trips that show outside of that. Then trips assigned based on PMU and time stamp. Anyone with a currrent BLG more than seat average plus 6 goes to the end of the line. The really important thing is all computer awarded and real time view of where you stand on the request and who is in front of you. Of course PMU hours should be only used once and done.
12-30-2014 | 01:25 PM
#36
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From: Dispersing Green House Gasses on a Global Basis
PIBS will solve all of this! We will all get the schedule we want at the beginning of each month and there will be no need to adjust our schedules! I know this because the company told me it's true! 
12-30-2014 | 02:01 PM
#37
Gone
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From: Gone
It must be nice to get a double-deadhead and 4 days of hotel standby in CGN. The trip NEVER appeared in open time. ALL three crew members who picked up the trip are wolf pack members. I'm no mathematician but I believe the odds of that happening ethically and honestly are nearly mathematically impossible. So, how does that happen when a hundred other folks are watching open time at the same time? And yet, this shady behavior continues unabated.
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12-30-2014 | 02:45 PM
#40
trip trading freak
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From: MD-11
Everyone has access to FX CAL and BidX. All you have to do is pay for it. That's what I use and I'm pretty sure that's what they use. If you want to go a step further, there are a number of Add-ons to public browsers that do the exact same thing as FX CAL.
The company's job is to publish open time. The method and how how often you check open time is up to you, FX Cal, BidX, browsers or the phone. But to my knowledge, there is absolutely no way around the 300 open time hits. If you've figured out a way around this restriction, then you are in the wrong. When I hit 300, I go to bed or wait for a text from another pilot who's still checking.
As to why they have their calendars blocked, I can't answer that. It's a personal choice. But, if all my activities were being discussed and criticized over the internet then I would consider it also. The guy who is the best at it, opened his calendar and he got blown up by everyone on this board. I can tell you they're not doing DRF/VOL if that's what you're worried about.
Don't worry, they are doing the same crappy trips as you and I. But, those trips don't get talked about. People only highlight the good trips they get. I've beaten them to the good trips and I've gotten ETS by them. I don't cry and whine about it. I move on and try and find the next trip.
Hope this helps.
The company's job is to publish open time. The method and how how often you check open time is up to you, FX Cal, BidX, browsers or the phone. But to my knowledge, there is absolutely no way around the 300 open time hits. If you've figured out a way around this restriction, then you are in the wrong. When I hit 300, I go to bed or wait for a text from another pilot who's still checking.
As to why they have their calendars blocked, I can't answer that. It's a personal choice. But, if all my activities were being discussed and criticized over the internet then I would consider it also. The guy who is the best at it, opened his calendar and he got blown up by everyone on this board. I can tell you they're not doing DRF/VOL if that's what you're worried about.
Don't worry, they are doing the same crappy trips as you and I. But, those trips don't get talked about. People only highlight the good trips they get. I've beaten them to the good trips and I've gotten ETS by them. I don't cry and whine about it. I move on and try and find the next trip.
Hope this helps.
Yes, they are doing the same crappy trips as you and I right now because there haven't hardly been any trips like that in a while and the first one that surfaces, 3 regulars get it. I check religiously, and have a group that texts each other. I have had some good success but nothing like them. I personally don't think they have a program but I do think the group gets a text or a call for some "info" from a non crew member. If you looked previously, we are talking month's of every single trip on their schedule being xpairings. I get that I might only be a AAA player and they are at the professional level. However, even the pros don't bat 1000!!!
Want more proof, call pro stans and see how many calls they have received on them and the info some have provided. I can tell you for a fact, one of them was airborne when he was able to pick a trip up. Also, friend of mine had to tell one of them to get off his phone as he was taxiing in cause he was checking open time. Pretty easy for the company to check that if they wanted.
Statistically, it isn't possible... even with the OTP trick.
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