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Old 12-30-2014, 04:15 AM
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It sounds like Tripp drops and pickups are done in real time at FedEx. That type of system is always open to abuse. Consider bringing a resolution at your next MEC meeting to switch to a window system for beyond next day coverage. Swaps and drops are only processed at each window time. If you have 4 daily windows you need only log on and check open time 4 times a day to insure you see all trips. This eliminates a lot of abuse and saves huge amounts of time spent watching open time.
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Old 12-30-2014, 04:49 AM
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It sounds like Tripp drops and pickups are done in real time at FedEx
Hah I wish. Our system processes trades/drops at the random whim of schedulers. Only they know the time that it will be processed. There could be more important things occurring...drafting, putting out fires, BSing, online shopping & game playing :-/

Some schedulers are great, but most the time I have to wait 1 to 4+ hours on trades

Real time trip trading would be a huge upgrade. At least then we could remove the scheduler from the loop and a lot of the shadiness that goes along with it.

For the company response we can't because of Priority Makeup. I'd personally be willing to give up the scheduling aspect of PMU for realtime trip trading. I believe this is being addressed in negotiations (if and when that ever happens again :-/)
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Old 12-30-2014, 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Nightflyer View Post
OK V1, I'll take the first shot.

If they have nothing to hide, why are their calendars blocked?

They don't just "check open time", they have a program they use that does it for them. Everyone should have a fair chance at open time, or do you disagree?

Using a program that not everyone has access to is cheating. The union and the company should shut this down or publish how to use the program so everyone can use it.

I await your response.

Everyone has access to FX CAL and BidX. All you have to do is pay for it. That's what I use and I'm pretty sure that's what they use. If you want to go a step further, there are a number of Add-ons to public browsers that do the exact same thing as FX CAL.

The company's job is to publish open time. The method and how how often you check open time is up to you, FX Cal, BidX, browsers or the phone. But to my knowledge, there is absolutely no way around the 300 open time hits. If you've figured out a way around this restriction, then you are in the wrong. When I hit 300, I go to bed or wait for a text from another pilot who's still checking.

As to why they have their calendars blocked, I can't answer that. It's a personal choice. But, if all my activities were being discussed and criticized over the internet then I would consider it also. The guy who is the best at it, opened his calendar and he got blown up by everyone on this board. I can tell you they're not doing DRF/VOL if that's what you're worried about.

Don't worry, they are doing the same crappy trips as you and I. But, those trips don't get talked about. People only highlight the good trips they get. I've beaten them to the good trips and I've gotten ETS by them. I don't cry and whine about it. I move on and try and find the next trip.

Hope this helps.
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Old 12-30-2014, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by TonyC View Post
Looks like someone just violated the first rule about wolfpack.


AND the second rule about wolfpack.






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Sorry, I'm not a member of this so-called CLUB. But, I do work with others pilots. As do many others.
Yes, I work hard to get good trips. I would much rather DDH to Europe than do hub turns.
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Old 12-30-2014, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by max8222 View Post
Ok V1 uh-oh, It is hard to relax when we are getting screwed by our fellow pilots. Your post sounds like something from the company and I guess you think we are naive and drink all the cool aide.

Quite defensive for someone who is not doing anything wrong!

How are they screwing other pilots? I hear that all time. What are they or ANYONE who is efficient on open time doing to screw anyone. They saw the trips in open time that night and put in for it and got it. I saw it also, but couldn't do it. If you were watching open time, you and everyone else could've got it. They were just faster/better prepared/more diligent, whatever you want to call it.

The company doesn't care WHO flies the trips as long as they are filled. I am 99.9% sure there is no cheating going on. Maybe there was a few years ago, I can't say for certain. The company called guys into the office and there were discussions. That's all I know for sure. Why would you risk a good job over it??

NO KOOL AID for me BTW.
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Old 12-30-2014, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by v1 uh-oh View Post
...... If you've figured out a way around this restriction, then you are in the wrong. When I hit 300, I go to bed or wait for a text from another pilot who's still checking......
More clues.
24 hour = 1440 Minutes
1440(Minutes) / 300(VIPS lockout) = 4.8 Pilots

5+ wolfpackers divide 24 hour block checking open time every minute. When first packer gets locked out of VIPS, the duty passes to next packer in group. When X-pairing hits open time, text message is auto sent to all in groups. Large OTP banks used to acquire X-pairings. Awarded X-pairings traded among said group.

Just a thought.
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Old 12-30-2014, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by v1 uh-oh View Post
Everyone needs to relax. I know both guys and can say with almost certainty that there is nothing going on behind the scenes. They are either out-working everyone on open time or they're getting texts from fellow pilots.

The first 2 posters had no clue. They are just perpetuating a myth. This gets everyone else fired up and then everyone wants a witch hunt. If you're not checking open time 300 times a day then the guys who do check it that many times are at an advantage and WILL get the good trips. You guys need to quit complaining and get on open time more. If you've got better things to do than check open time then don't cry when we get the trips.

Fire away.
I sincerely hope that I ALWAYS have better things to do than check OT 300+ times a day for the rest of my life. Especially if it means I don't have to do the work of two or more pilots and subsequently block my calender b/c I don't want my fellow pilots seeing what shady things I'm really up to. But if it works for you, have at it.

Btw, I heard from the ipad guy that outside apps like FX cal or Bidx will eventually be blocked by the company. Specifically, he said when the new contract is eventually ratified that those apps will not be allowed to access VIPS. Don't shoot me, I'm just passing on what he said.
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Old 12-30-2014, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by v1 uh-oh View Post

They were just faster/better prepared/more diligent, whatever you want to call it.

I'm going to raise the "B.S." flag on that. You MUST be one of those guys that's buddies with the schedulers? Why else would you defend this "if it's good for ME" practice?

How much do you pay for really good trips? I've had guys admit that they "paid" for DFT/VOL trips! I call that "SHADY"!*?

Or ... maybe the rest of us just aren't as smart as you and your buds???


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Old 12-30-2014, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by MaydayMark View Post
I'm going to raise the "B.S." flag on that. You MUST be one of those guys that's buddies with the schedulers? Why else would you defend this "if it's good for ME" practice?

How much do you pay for really good trips? I've had guys admit that they "paid" for DFT/VOL trips! I call that "SHADY"!*?

Or ... maybe the rest of us just aren't as smart as you and your buds???


You need to get back on your MEDS. You're delusional if you think I would pay someone to fly a trip. I prefer to get paid to NOT fly a trip. Paying schedulers probably happened a LONG time ago when you first started with the company. You seem to have a lot of information regarding it, how do we know you didn't or are still doing it.

I will admit it's definitely better for me to fly good trips than it is to fly bad trips. I'm sorry for the ME-First attitude.
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Old 12-30-2014, 10:21 AM
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