Wolf pack continues with impunity
#21
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Posts: 19,273
It sounds like Tripp drops and pickups are done in real time at FedEx. That type of system is always open to abuse. Consider bringing a resolution at your next MEC meeting to switch to a window system for beyond next day coverage. Swaps and drops are only processed at each window time. If you have 4 daily windows you need only log on and check open time 4 times a day to insure you see all trips. This eliminates a lot of abuse and saves huge amounts of time spent watching open time.
#22
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jun 2014
Position: MD-11 Galley Biatch
Posts: 29
Some schedulers are great, but most the time I have to wait 1 to 4+ hours on trades
Real time trip trading would be a huge upgrade. At least then we could remove the scheduler from the loop and a lot of the shadiness that goes along with it.
For the company response we can't because of Priority Makeup. I'd personally be willing to give up the scheduling aspect of PMU for realtime trip trading. I believe this is being addressed in negotiations (if and when that ever happens again :-/)
#23
OK V1, I'll take the first shot.
If they have nothing to hide, why are their calendars blocked?
They don't just "check open time", they have a program they use that does it for them. Everyone should have a fair chance at open time, or do you disagree?
Using a program that not everyone has access to is cheating. The union and the company should shut this down or publish how to use the program so everyone can use it.
I await your response.
If they have nothing to hide, why are their calendars blocked?
They don't just "check open time", they have a program they use that does it for them. Everyone should have a fair chance at open time, or do you disagree?
Using a program that not everyone has access to is cheating. The union and the company should shut this down or publish how to use the program so everyone can use it.
I await your response.
Everyone has access to FX CAL and BidX. All you have to do is pay for it. That's what I use and I'm pretty sure that's what they use. If you want to go a step further, there are a number of Add-ons to public browsers that do the exact same thing as FX CAL.
The company's job is to publish open time. The method and how how often you check open time is up to you, FX Cal, BidX, browsers or the phone. But to my knowledge, there is absolutely no way around the 300 open time hits. If you've figured out a way around this restriction, then you are in the wrong. When I hit 300, I go to bed or wait for a text from another pilot who's still checking.
As to why they have their calendars blocked, I can't answer that. It's a personal choice. But, if all my activities were being discussed and criticized over the internet then I would consider it also. The guy who is the best at it, opened his calendar and he got blown up by everyone on this board. I can tell you they're not doing DRF/VOL if that's what you're worried about.
Don't worry, they are doing the same crappy trips as you and I. But, those trips don't get talked about. People only highlight the good trips they get. I've beaten them to the good trips and I've gotten ETS by them. I don't cry and whine about it. I move on and try and find the next trip.
Hope this helps.
#24
Yes, I work hard to get good trips. I would much rather DDH to Europe than do hub turns.
#25
How are they screwing other pilots? I hear that all time. What are they or ANYONE who is efficient on open time doing to screw anyone. They saw the trips in open time that night and put in for it and got it. I saw it also, but couldn't do it. If you were watching open time, you and everyone else could've got it. They were just faster/better prepared/more diligent, whatever you want to call it.
The company doesn't care WHO flies the trips as long as they are filled. I am 99.9% sure there is no cheating going on. Maybe there was a few years ago, I can't say for certain. The company called guys into the office and there were discussions. That's all I know for sure. Why would you risk a good job over it??
NO KOOL AID for me BTW.
#26
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: B777 FO
Posts: 101
24 hour = 1440 Minutes
1440(Minutes) / 300(VIPS lockout) = 4.8 Pilots
5+ wolfpackers divide 24 hour block checking open time every minute. When first packer gets locked out of VIPS, the duty passes to next packer in group. When X-pairing hits open time, text message is auto sent to all in groups. Large OTP banks used to acquire X-pairings. Awarded X-pairings traded among said group.
Just a thought.
#27
Everyone needs to relax. I know both guys and can say with almost certainty that there is nothing going on behind the scenes. They are either out-working everyone on open time or they're getting texts from fellow pilots.
The first 2 posters had no clue. They are just perpetuating a myth. This gets everyone else fired up and then everyone wants a witch hunt. If you're not checking open time 300 times a day then the guys who do check it that many times are at an advantage and WILL get the good trips. You guys need to quit complaining and get on open time more. If you've got better things to do than check open time then don't cry when we get the trips.
Fire away.
The first 2 posters had no clue. They are just perpetuating a myth. This gets everyone else fired up and then everyone wants a witch hunt. If you're not checking open time 300 times a day then the guys who do check it that many times are at an advantage and WILL get the good trips. You guys need to quit complaining and get on open time more. If you've got better things to do than check open time then don't cry when we get the trips.
Fire away.
Btw, I heard from the ipad guy that outside apps like FX cal or Bidx will eventually be blocked by the company. Specifically, he said when the new contract is eventually ratified that those apps will not be allowed to access VIPS. Don't shoot me, I'm just passing on what he said.
#28
I'm going to raise the "B.S." flag on that. You MUST be one of those guys that's buddies with the schedulers? Why else would you defend this "if it's good for ME" practice?
How much do you pay for really good trips? I've had guys admit that they "paid" for DFT/VOL trips! I call that "SHADY"!*?
Or ... maybe the rest of us just aren't as smart as you and your buds???
#29
I'm going to raise the "B.S." flag on that. You MUST be one of those guys that's buddies with the schedulers? Why else would you defend this "if it's good for ME" practice?
How much do you pay for really good trips? I've had guys admit that they "paid" for DFT/VOL trips! I call that "SHADY"!*?
Or ... maybe the rest of us just aren't as smart as you and your buds???
How much do you pay for really good trips? I've had guys admit that they "paid" for DFT/VOL trips! I call that "SHADY"!*?
Or ... maybe the rest of us just aren't as smart as you and your buds???
I will admit it's definitely better for me to fly good trips than it is to fly bad trips. I'm sorry for the ME-First attitude.
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