Fdx alpa q&a
09-01-2015, 03:58 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by repoman
Someone asked on the ALPA Q and A site how many sim support sessions you could be assigned in a block of R days and would they be considered jeopardy events. The answer avoided answering either question like your average politician. They remain silent on the jeopardy question and state that you could only do 1 sim a day. How many sims can we do in a week or block of R days is the question. What good is the site if it won't give you the "rest of the story" with the answer.
Q: Are there limitations on how many sim support sessions can be assigned to a RSV during a given RSV block or bid period? Are the support sessions" jeopardy" for the assigned support pilot?
A: "A pilot who completes a base simulator support event may not be assigned to perform another simulator support event in that duty period. The pilot shall be provided a rest period of 12 hours or greater. Otherwise, A RSV pilot has the option to do as many RSV simulator support events as he desires since they are voluntary.
Concerning ""jeopardy"", any pilot who voluntarily accepts a simulator support event would be required to perform to the standards expected of any pilot. Pilots who elect to perform a simulator support event need to keep this in mind."
Seems apolitical to me, but perhaps they didn't have this answered yet when you looked at it?
My BIG Takeaway...it's voluntary!
09-01-2015, 07:12 PM
#22
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Originally Posted by FDX1
Here's the answer from the FDX.ALPA.ORG
Q: Are there limitations on how many sim support sessions can be assigned to a RSV during a given RSV block or bid period? Are the support sessions" jeopardy" for the assigned support pilot?
A: "A pilot who completes a base simulator support event may not be assigned to perform another simulator support event in that duty period. The pilot shall be provided a rest period of 12 hours or greater. Otherwise, A RSV pilot has the option to do as many RSV simulator support events as he desires since they are voluntary.
Concerning ""jeopardy"", any pilot who voluntarily accepts a simulator support event would be required to perform to the standards expected of any pilot. Pilots who elect to perform a simulator support event need to keep this in mind."
Seems apolitical to me, but perhaps they didn't have this answered yet when you looked at it?
My BIG Takeaway...it's voluntary!
Q: Are there limitations on how many sim support sessions can be assigned to a RSV during a given RSV block or bid period? Are the support sessions" jeopardy" for the assigned support pilot?
A: "A pilot who completes a base simulator support event may not be assigned to perform another simulator support event in that duty period. The pilot shall be provided a rest period of 12 hours or greater. Otherwise, A RSV pilot has the option to do as many RSV simulator support events as he desires since they are voluntary.
Concerning ""jeopardy"", any pilot who voluntarily accepts a simulator support event would be required to perform to the standards expected of any pilot. Pilots who elect to perform a simulator support event need to keep this in mind."
Seems apolitical to me, but perhaps they didn't have this answered yet when you looked at it?
My BIG Takeaway...it's voluntary!
Yes! If you want to put yourself in jeopardy, you can. But, being that's it's voluntary...it's your choice to be stupid.
09-01-2015, 07:21 PM
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Not trying to come off as a "yes" man, but if you live in domicile would you rather do a 4 hour sim period or a 3 leg night hub turn to knock down your leveling?
Maybe I'm just a sick pup, but if I could live in domicile and practice a V1 cut or air turn back or various emergency procedures every two to three months (or more) I'd do it. Imagine how easy your CLOE would be if you'd already done every event a couple times in the previous month? Yeah...you shouldn't show up for a sim unprepared, but most of us have been going to the sim every 6 months anyway and still keeping our jobs, so I don't think doing it every 2-3 months would be any worse. I for one would enjoy the training now and then. If we have/get a 767 sim in Asia (and we STILL don't have a working one in MEM I'd do it once a month.
But the good thing is if you hate the idea, you can say no.
When I was in the Air Force we did a monthly Emergency procedure review, often in a cockpit mock-up. I still try to force myself to review the QRH periodically, but I think supporting a sim and running a checklist or two every month or two would do an even better job of keeping my own head in the game. YMMV.
There is a lot to dislike about this LOA. This is one little part I don't dislike.
(Ducking now)
Maybe I'm just a sick pup, but if I could live in domicile and practice a V1 cut or air turn back or various emergency procedures every two to three months (or more) I'd do it. Imagine how easy your CLOE would be if you'd already done every event a couple times in the previous month? Yeah...you shouldn't show up for a sim unprepared, but most of us have been going to the sim every 6 months anyway and still keeping our jobs, so I don't think doing it every 2-3 months would be any worse. I for one would enjoy the training now and then. If we have/get a 767 sim in Asia (and we STILL don't have a working one in MEM I'd do it once a month.
But the good thing is if you hate the idea, you can say no.
When I was in the Air Force we did a monthly Emergency procedure review, often in a cockpit mock-up. I still try to force myself to review the QRH periodically, but I think supporting a sim and running a checklist or two every month or two would do an even better job of keeping my own head in the game. YMMV.
There is a lot to dislike about this LOA. This is one little part I don't dislike.
(Ducking now)
09-01-2015, 07:34 PM
#24
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Gotta go w/Albie on this one.
If you're that afraid of the Sim, need to get yourself in for a proficiency Sim-or for God sakes tell the PM that if anything goes wrong...you got it-I'll struggle through the checklist.
If you're that afraid of the Sim, need to get yourself in for a proficiency Sim-or for God sakes tell the PM that if anything goes wrong...you got it-I'll struggle through the checklist.
09-01-2015, 07:56 PM
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It's there baby so of course it's the best.
I posted this on the other links but it fits here too:
I have talked to a lot of junior guys who got hired into a widebody right seat and already have their "bonus" money spent. All they are looking at is the "bonus" money (really back pay we are owed) and the new pay rates. I have also talked to a lot of other guys who are afraid to vote no because they feel like anything is better than nothing and they have no faith in the union leadership our their fellow crewmembers. Please help these crewmembers to consider the entire picture before they vote yes to a 10 year deal which I think significantly undervalues our contribution and has far too many concessions. I say we vote the TA down first and then immediately recall all the officers that voted yes and replace them with the no votes as our core leadership. Maybe flying the line will help the yes voters to understand why we want better pay and improvement to QOL. I think that would send a clear message to the mediator and the company about where we stand.
I don't think we will ever be in a stronger position to get what we have earned. Can you blame FedEx for offering us this POS decade long contract extension, littered with concessions. Hell we have voted in every other one and this group has never stood up to the company even once. I'd rather make 25% more on every trip and have a clear conscience than make 50% more on a couple of trips and feel dirty. It is personal choice we all have to make and live with, I actually have faith in my fellow crewmembers. I like and trust the people I fly with and I know we the most professional crewforce in the industry and fly in the most challenging environments. I literally put my life in your hands on a routine basis.
Come on we all know we are working harder, more legs, shorter layovers, unreasonable deadheads, no weekend layovers, more garbage trips and no city purity, plus management has gotten much more adversarial with us. The company is making record profits and management is getting theirs and I don't blame them, I just want mine too. I don't want to hurt FedEx I just want a pay raise, not just cost of living raise, I want some work rule improvements not concessions, and I want to protect the value of my benefits and my retirement. I don't think that is unreasonable and it is not much different from what we see management doing for themselves. We are in an environment that I am not willing to give up anything for free. This deal and the people who brought it to us (negotiators and yes votes) have to go. I have a spine and I plan to use it. Adios fellas and It is a definite "NO" vote for me. I can't wait to hear the sales pitch and excuses our leadership will offer us. I'm sure it will be polished and professional, just remember no matter how much you sugar coat a sh*t ball it is still a sh*t ball.
I have talked to a lot of junior guys who got hired into a widebody right seat and already have their "bonus" money spent. All they are looking at is the "bonus" money (really back pay we are owed) and the new pay rates. I have also talked to a lot of other guys who are afraid to vote no because they feel like anything is better than nothing and they have no faith in the union leadership our their fellow crewmembers. Please help these crewmembers to consider the entire picture before they vote yes to a 10 year deal which I think significantly undervalues our contribution and has far too many concessions. I say we vote the TA down first and then immediately recall all the officers that voted yes and replace them with the no votes as our core leadership. Maybe flying the line will help the yes voters to understand why we want better pay and improvement to QOL. I think that would send a clear message to the mediator and the company about where we stand.
I don't think we will ever be in a stronger position to get what we have earned. Can you blame FedEx for offering us this POS decade long contract extension, littered with concessions. Hell we have voted in every other one and this group has never stood up to the company even once. I'd rather make 25% more on every trip and have a clear conscience than make 50% more on a couple of trips and feel dirty. It is personal choice we all have to make and live with, I actually have faith in my fellow crewmembers. I like and trust the people I fly with and I know we the most professional crewforce in the industry and fly in the most challenging environments. I literally put my life in your hands on a routine basis.
Come on we all know we are working harder, more legs, shorter layovers, unreasonable deadheads, no weekend layovers, more garbage trips and no city purity, plus management has gotten much more adversarial with us. The company is making record profits and management is getting theirs and I don't blame them, I just want mine too. I don't want to hurt FedEx I just want a pay raise, not just cost of living raise, I want some work rule improvements not concessions, and I want to protect the value of my benefits and my retirement. I don't think that is unreasonable and it is not much different from what we see management doing for themselves. We are in an environment that I am not willing to give up anything for free. This deal and the people who brought it to us (negotiators and yes votes) have to go. I have a spine and I plan to use it. Adios fellas and It is a definite "NO" vote for me. I can't wait to hear the sales pitch and excuses our leadership will offer us. I'm sure it will be polished and professional, just remember no matter how much you sugar coat a sh*t ball it is still a sh*t ball.
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09-01-2015, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by FDXAV8R
I posted this on the other links but it fits here too:
I have talked to a lot of junior guys who got hired into a widebody right seat and already have their "bonus" money spent. All they are looking at is the "bonus" money (really back pay we are owed) and the new pay rates. I have also talked to a lot of other guys who are afraid to vote no because they feel like anything is better than nothing and they have no faith in the union leadership our their fellow crewmembers. Please help these crewmembers to consider the entire picture before they vote yes to a 10 year deal which I think significantly undervalues our contribution and has far too many concessions. I say we vote the TA down first and then immediately recall all the officers that voted yes and replace them with the no votes as our core leadership. Maybe flying the line will help the yes voters to understand why we want better pay and improvement to QOL. I think that would send a clear message to the mediator and the company about where we stand.
I don't think we will ever be in a stronger position to get what we have earned. Can you blame FedEx for offering us this POS decade long contract extension, littered with concessions. Hell we have voted in every other one and this group has never stood up to the company even once. I'd rather make 25% more on every trip and have a clear conscience than make 50% more on a couple of trips and feel dirty. It is personal choice we all have to make and live with, I actually have faith in my fellow crewmembers. I like and trust the people I fly with and I know we the most professional crewforce in the industry and fly in the most challenging environments. I literally put my life in your hands on a routine basis.
Come on we all know we are working harder, more legs, shorter layovers, unreasonable deadheads, no weekend layovers, more garbage trips and no city purity, plus management has gotten much more adversarial with us. The company is making record profits and management is getting theirs and I don't blame them, I just want mine too. I don't want to hurt FedEx I just want a pay raise, not just cost of living raise, I want some work rule improvements not concessions, and I want to protect the value of my benefits and my retirement. I don't think that is unreasonable and it is not much different from what we see management doing for themselves. We are in an environment that I am not willing to give up anything for free. This deal and the people who brought it to us (negotiators and yes votes) have to go. I have a spine and I plan to use it. Adios fellas and It is a definite "NO" vote for me. I can't wait to hear the sales pitch and excuses our leadership will offer us. I'm sure it will be polished and professional, just remember no matter how much you sugar coat a sh*t ball it is still a sh*t ball.
I have talked to a lot of junior guys who got hired into a widebody right seat and already have their "bonus" money spent. All they are looking at is the "bonus" money (really back pay we are owed) and the new pay rates. I have also talked to a lot of other guys who are afraid to vote no because they feel like anything is better than nothing and they have no faith in the union leadership our their fellow crewmembers. Please help these crewmembers to consider the entire picture before they vote yes to a 10 year deal which I think significantly undervalues our contribution and has far too many concessions. I say we vote the TA down first and then immediately recall all the officers that voted yes and replace them with the no votes as our core leadership. Maybe flying the line will help the yes voters to understand why we want better pay and improvement to QOL. I think that would send a clear message to the mediator and the company about where we stand.
I don't think we will ever be in a stronger position to get what we have earned. Can you blame FedEx for offering us this POS decade long contract extension, littered with concessions. Hell we have voted in every other one and this group has never stood up to the company even once. I'd rather make 25% more on every trip and have a clear conscience than make 50% more on a couple of trips and feel dirty. It is personal choice we all have to make and live with, I actually have faith in my fellow crewmembers. I like and trust the people I fly with and I know we the most professional crewforce in the industry and fly in the most challenging environments. I literally put my life in your hands on a routine basis.
Come on we all know we are working harder, more legs, shorter layovers, unreasonable deadheads, no weekend layovers, more garbage trips and no city purity, plus management has gotten much more adversarial with us. The company is making record profits and management is getting theirs and I don't blame them, I just want mine too. I don't want to hurt FedEx I just want a pay raise, not just cost of living raise, I want some work rule improvements not concessions, and I want to protect the value of my benefits and my retirement. I don't think that is unreasonable and it is not much different from what we see management doing for themselves. We are in an environment that I am not willing to give up anything for free. This deal and the people who brought it to us (negotiators and yes votes) have to go. I have a spine and I plan to use it. Adios fellas and It is a definite "NO" vote for me. I can't wait to hear the sales pitch and excuses our leadership will offer us. I'm sure it will be polished and professional, just remember no matter how much you sugar coat a sh*t ball it is still a sh*t ball.
09-02-2015, 10:14 AM
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From the Q&A site...
Q: Why are our payrate increases less than cost of inflation?
A: Our research indicates that the pay rates are well ahead of inflation projections. The question of inflation and pay rates was fully explored with our analysts in the ALPA Economics and Financial Analysis Department.
Seems like a politicians response. Well ahead of inflation projections? And what is that number?? And forget about projections. What about the inflation rate for the past 4 years. To prove the point, how about they explain their analysis.
I just dont like the lack of transparency in their answer. Mumbo jumbo cr@p IMO. Is it just me, or do others see it that way?
Q: Why are our payrate increases less than cost of inflation?
A: Our research indicates that the pay rates are well ahead of inflation projections. The question of inflation and pay rates was fully explored with our analysts in the ALPA Economics and Financial Analysis Department.
Seems like a politicians response. Well ahead of inflation projections? And what is that number?? And forget about projections. What about the inflation rate for the past 4 years. To prove the point, how about they explain their analysis.
I just dont like the lack of transparency in their answer. Mumbo jumbo cr@p IMO. Is it just me, or do others see it that way?
09-02-2015, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by iarapilot
From the Q&A site...
Q: Why are our payrate increases less than cost of inflation?
A: Our research indicates that the pay rates are well ahead of inflation projections. The question of inflation and pay rates was fully explored with our analysts in the ALPA Economics and Financial Analysis Department.
Seems like a politicians response. Well ahead of inflation projections? And what is that number?? And forget about projections. What about the inflation rate for the past 4 years. To prove the point, how about they explain their analysis.
I just dont like the lack of transparency in their answer. Mumbo jumbo cr@p IMO. Is it just me, or do others see it that way?
Q: Why are our payrate increases less than cost of inflation?
A: Our research indicates that the pay rates are well ahead of inflation projections. The question of inflation and pay rates was fully explored with our analysts in the ALPA Economics and Financial Analysis Department.
Seems like a politicians response. Well ahead of inflation projections? And what is that number?? And forget about projections. What about the inflation rate for the past 4 years. To prove the point, how about they explain their analysis.
I just dont like the lack of transparency in their answer. Mumbo jumbo cr@p IMO. Is it just me, or do others see it that way?
Many responses on the Q&A site are OK, BUT too many do not answer the question, are dismissive, or are "politicians" answers.
Example : Someone asked why there was no real time trip trading. The meat of the answer was " the main problem involved the initial release of open time and the volume of submissions." Then went on with an attempt at appeasing the person with the question.
My follow up question (from my journalism 101 days) would be "Then why do so many other airlines with greater pilots and flights have real time trip trading?"
09-02-2015, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by MalteseX
..."Then why do so many other airlines with greater pilots and flights have real time trip trading?"
09-02-2015, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by CloudSailor
And a refreshing answer would be "because the company likes to maintain that control over our scheduling abilities, and we conceded - regardless of the minimal capital expenditure required for this". Then, the Q&A session would actually be worth reading.
Bottom line is that "political", evasive, or " appeasing " answers evoke a lack of trust. I WANT to trust our guys
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