FDX TA jumpseat changes?
#21
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Joined APC: Mar 2012
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In section 26 (General) one of the changes in your TA is;
- Ability to bump offline jumpseaters up to 1 hour prior to showtime (PBB)
What does PBB stand for?
We (ups) have absolute awful jumpseating rules, keep getting bumped left and right and we always appreciate riding on your flights. Purple is famous for the "guaranteed" jumpseat rule (within 24 hours, with some caveats of course).
The TA change would make your rules more like ours and I was wondering what precipitated the change?
Is it your company pushing for this or your line pilots not being able to get to work?
Either one would be understandable and it's your business of course. From an offline pilot's perspective it'd be a negative change but again, you guys are always great to us and we appreciate the ride each time we fly on purple!
- Ability to bump offline jumpseaters up to 1 hour prior to showtime (PBB)
What does PBB stand for?
We (ups) have absolute awful jumpseating rules, keep getting bumped left and right and we always appreciate riding on your flights. Purple is famous for the "guaranteed" jumpseat rule (within 24 hours, with some caveats of course).
The TA change would make your rules more like ours and I was wondering what precipitated the change?
Is it your company pushing for this or your line pilots not being able to get to work?
Either one would be understandable and it's your business of course. From an offline pilot's perspective it'd be a negative change but again, you guys are always great to us and we appreciate the ride each time we fly on purple!
#22
If we get bumped off the JS, can we use our deviation bank to pay for a hotel room?
This is one more benefit that isn't quite as good as it used to be ... but it saves the Company money by allowing them to put DH pilots on the jumpseat. Heck, why not put ALL DHing pilots on the JS (especially the ones in front of the lav.
Camel ... Nose ...
#23
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#24
That bears repeating.
The guaranteed offline 24 hours needs to stay. No non emergency bumping. Period.
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#25
#26
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I'm not trying to do that at all.
KnightFlyer has the same document I do. It's called "Section by Section Highlights as of August 17, 2015"
"Section 26 General
• Raised annual uniform allowance to $200 (26.B.)
• “No harm” jumpseats expanded to all bases (26.J.)
• New expired Visa/passport notifications and validations similar to medical certificates (26.M.)
• Company manuals provided in electronic format only (26.Q.)
• Ability to bump offline jumpseaters up to 1 hour prior to showtime (PBB)
• New boarding priority system (PBB)
• Modified jumpseat suspension language (PBB)
• Removed seat blocking of jumpseats for deadheading crewmembers from bidpacks (PBB)
• Improved new aircraft acquisition language (26.K.)
• Known Crewmember (KCM) contractually required (26.AA.)
#27
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#28
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The company needs to be able to bump guys from offline so they can put us on the jumpseat in lieu of our deadheads. Unless you are a complete idiot you know FedEx will expand on the jumpseat in lieu of deadhead concession and for those that say this is from a previous arbitration, the language in the TA is much too broad. What happened to clarity and getting the language right?
I can see trip revisions and extensions causing a deadhead to interfere with your next trip. Viola--just put you on the company jumpseat instead. We will soon be like UPS. Before you know it--scheduled company jumpseats will be the norm and scheduled deadheads a distant memory and first class deadheads will soon be an urban legend among new hires.
I can see trip revisions and extensions causing a deadhead to interfere with your next trip. Viola--just put you on the company jumpseat instead. We will soon be like UPS. Before you know it--scheduled company jumpseats will be the norm and scheduled deadheads a distant memory and first class deadheads will soon be an urban legend among new hires.
#29
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
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The company needs to be able to bump guys from offline so they can put us on the jumpseat in lieu of our deadheads. Unless you are a complete idiot you know FedEx will expand on the jumpseat in lieu of deadhead concession and for those that say this is from a previous arbitration, the language in the TA is much too broad. What happened to clarity and getting the language right?
I can see trip revisions and extensions causing a deadhead to interfere with your next trip. Viola--just put you on the company jumpseat instead. We will soon be like UPS. Before you know it--scheduled company jumpseats will be the norm and scheduled deadheads a distant memory and first class deadheads will soon be an urban legend among new hires.
I can see trip revisions and extensions causing a deadhead to interfere with your next trip. Viola--just put you on the company jumpseat instead. We will soon be like UPS. Before you know it--scheduled company jumpseats will be the norm and scheduled deadheads a distant memory and first class deadheads will soon be an urban legend among new hires.
Realize the other airlines don't even guarantee their own guys. At the last minute a senior guy can come up and bump a junior guy going to work. I am not trying to be harsh, just realistic. This is not starting a war or done out of spite. This is the norm for all other companies.
So let me say it again, It needs to change.
Pakage
#30
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Whale, the company already has the power to stick people on jumpseats. I truly think offline guys getting bumped will rarely happen. But unfortunately, it is a small risk now.
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