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Old 10-08-2015 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by StarClipper
I guess these people are looking out for their best interest and the best interest of their families. It's no different than FDXLAG, ROCK and Albie15 defending their votes
You are assuming, however, what is the "right" way to vote. What, in your mind, is a no voter doing differently than a yes voter? Why do you single those people out?

Do you think the yes voter is being selfish, and the no voter is valiantly advancing the cause, against their own self interest?

Edit to add, maybe you should join in the Lord of the Rings proposed TA story.
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Old 10-08-2015 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxKts
We decided a course of action - it was called our openers! We didn't acheive them! The course of action required would be to turn down this TA and work for a better one!
It's as simple as that. How this crewforce even considers anything less is troubling.
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Old 10-08-2015 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxKts
We decided a course of action - it was called our openers! We didn't acheive them! The course of action required would be to turn down this TA and work for a better one!
So you going to withhold dues if it a yes? What are your actions if it is a no? Maybe dissolve ALPA? I am sorry you are so upset, life goes on. If the nos carry the day, part of me will be relieved that the company doesn't get 8 in 24 relief and we can have a real discussion on retirement.
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Old 10-08-2015 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by StarClipper
Based on what I'm reading, there is no contract yet. Just a TA, the contract haven't been voted in yet. And if you think Mngmt don't look at what actions are taken by crew force at other companies, you're fooling yourself. They pay very close attention to work rules, compensation ect. With that being said, work rules and QOL and other companies could have an adverse effect on your company. There is currently a new company flying MD11 based out of Florida, if their work rule are such that they don't have enough rest and God forbid an incident occur, what effect would the incident of an MD11 have on your company. At the end of the day we are all interconnected. One man mistake regardless if it's due to fatigue or poor working condition could cause serious change in regulation for all.
Thanks for the update.
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Old 10-08-2015 | 03:38 PM
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The no faction is starting to sound shrill. I've been reading all this the last few days and it occurred to me; why would the MEC vote unanimously to conclude negotiations and then immediately a very coordinated effort by 4 reps whipsaw and vociferously attack the TA before the road shows even started? I did some looking, and Capt. Teeter published an interesting opinion back in March about the ongoing struggle of a minority to gain control of FDX ALPA. Could it be all this caterwauling is more about the "inevitable reorg." and control Of the MEC than about the TA?
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Old 10-08-2015 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by StarClipper
Based on what I'm reading, there is no contract yet. Just a TA, the contract haven't been voted in yet. And if you think Mngmt don't look at what actions are taken by crew force at other companies, you're fooling yourself. They pay very close attention to work rules, compensation ect. With that being said, work rules and QOL and other companies could have an adverse effect on your company. There is currently a new company flying MD11 based out of Florida, if their work rule are such that they don't have enough rest and God forbid an incident occur, what effect would the incident of an MD11 have on your company. At the end of the day we are all interconnected. One man mistake regardless if it's due to fatigue or poor working condition could cause serious change in regulation for all.
Apparently you have no idea of how many MD11's we have crashed.
Forget even talking about incidents.
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Old 10-08-2015 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by busdriver12
You are assuming, however, what is the "right" way to vote. What, in your mind, is a no voter doing differently than a yes voter? Why do you single those people out?

Do you think the yes voter is being selfish, and the no voter is valiantly advancing the cause, against their own self interest?

Edit to add, maybe you should join in the Lord of the Rings proposed TA story.
I pointed Albie15 out because he did a complete 180 from his pre TA post. He listed had a lot of things which he stated were no votes then he post a few pages on why he is voting yes even if most of the demands weren't met. As for Rock and FDXLAG it just seems like they have no rational. Pretty much if the union say it, they believe it, regardless of what's written in black and white
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Old 10-08-2015 | 03:58 PM
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Great, so Starclipper works for someone else. Policywonk is a weird man of mystery. And not a single FedEx no voter will answer the very easy question I posted on this thread. Not that we actually know if there are any FedEx no voters on this thread.
What a circus. No wonder 90% of the crew force considers this website something below the Gerry Springer show.
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Old 10-08-2015 | 04:00 PM
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It's funny. There are a couple of posters on our other site that post a lot like Lag and Rock.
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Old 10-08-2015 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by StarClipper
I pointed Albie15 out because he did a complete 180 from his pre TA post. He listed had a lot of things which he stated were no votes then he post a few pages on why he is voting yes even if most of the demands weren't met. As for Rock and FDXLAG it just seems like they have no rational. Pretty much if the union say it, they believe it, regardless of what's written in black and white
Albie is a very thoughtful poster. Many of us were very interested to hear what he had to say. Even though he knew with this crowd, he would get attacked if he said he supported the yes vote, he still posted honestly. I don't think you have read any of Rock and Fdxlag's rationale, that they have posted repetitively. So it sounds like you are making your conclusions based upon what some very vocal people have written. Have you analyzed the TA?
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