Rock

GetRealDude, you do realize he was talking about drones right? And why he doesn't see them moving into our industry in the near future? Tell me you read more than the one sentence you posted.

With regard to your first post on this thread...you boast about your character and conviction, and explain that you are going to wear a "FITI bracelet" (whatever that is) and "no lanyard" to prove it. Seriously?!? You'd be better off following your other listed strategy of demonstrating "silent, quiet perseverance".
There are valid reasons for voting yes and valid reasons for voting no on this TA. Courage has zero to do with any of them. At least not the kind of courage many of your flying brothers have spent decades actually demonstrating. I'll speak for myself here, but I know many others agree...FedEx is not my life. Flying for FedEx is my j.o.b. There will never...ever...be a contract that dictates my true value or worth. There will never...ever...be a contract that does nothing more than explain how, when and what I get paid for doing my j.o.b. When I decide FedEx doesn't sufficiently appreciate my services, I will find a new job. Until then, I will do my job. By airline standards, it is absolutely one of the best. I don't need FedEx or my MEC to tell me that. I've lived a long enough life and had enough jobs to judge for myself. I actually wish I'd lived such a pampared life that I thought our pay and working environment were "gut punches". Then again...maybe I don't.

GetRealDude

I don't boast whatsoever Rock. Did your "Contract Now" lanyard generate a contract worthy of your contribution? I don't see it. The FITI bracelet is a quiet, firm statement of FIX IT, or TRASH IT. Some see it as F--k It, Truck It. A direct response to the previous Red Letter campaign.

We've all earned a greater slice of the pie. This TA does not reflect our contribution to corporate success. No need to over analyze.

We're under-appreciated and under-compensated for our efforts. Period.

The NC failed to secure a contract reflective of the statement above. You can pick small morsels to criticize me, but the greater message is clear.

You know it and so do I.


Don't get it twisted. Do your job, make your vote, take your check. Quit and move on if you must. Your call.

But don't insinuate that I'm uninformed, making comments out of context (clarification provided already), or should apologize for my position.

I made no mention of courage. There is not a single element of any part of this contract requiring courage. Nothing we do in our job description requires courage. Courage is reserved for warriors fighting the good fight for our freedom. Don't even go there with regard to this or any other thread regarding civilian airline jobs.

I suggest you learn the difference between courage and conviction.

Rock

Your position in your first post is that people who vote yes on this TA are cowards. So I'm not going to insinuate you should apologize for that. I am telling you that you are wrong. While sporting a FITI bracelet may be a real Teddy Roosevelt moment in your life, I think the value you put in that decision further underscores your misconceptions about courage. I get that you feel personally assualted and insulted by the TA. You seem to have a real need to have the company tell you how important you are. If that's driving your desire to vote no, so be it. But don't characterize people who disagree with you as surrendering. They may simply require less from the company to have happy lives.

GetRealDude

Incorrect on all accounts.
Believe what you want.

I'm not interested in a textual battle with you. You want to argue ... fine. Look in the mirror and go for it.

kronan

With all due consideration,
Real courage is indicating you're voting yes on this TA for _____ reason (s)

Laughing_Jakal

You may see it as courageous. I see it as simply pragmatic. I voted yes for reasons obvious enough to me. I ran a personal cost/benefit analysis and came to a "yes", by a small margin.

kronan

And, with the tenor in communication, I think you were courageous to outline your rationale for voting Yes

Goodness knows it seems as if Albies gone from deified to vilified

machz990

That same logic could be used for justifying many things like flying draft, AVA, etc.

I ran another analysis and found out this doesn't advance our profession, is mostly self-funded with productivity gains, is a win for the company and erodes our QOL on many levels. This is my last contract. I could take the money and run but that isn't the legacy I want to leave.


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GetRealDude

Machz990

It's great to see this overall perspective. We need more of this across the board. We're all responsible for advancing our position and leaving it better for those who follow.

TA1 isn't reflective of either.

TonyC

Just curious, what did you plug in the spreadsheet for the diminished value of your Defined Benefit Plan?

Also, did you leave the cost of 2017 health care as a blank (a flat percentage of "something"), an amount to be determined later, or did you use somebody's guess?







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