ClutchCargo

So you can make $300k/yr in CGN without doing any extra flying?


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Sluggo_63

You're right, it's a big scary world out there! Better stick to those BNA out and backs...

Sluggo_63

FWIW, every MEM MD and Bus captain that I spoke with who went to CGN as a 757 captain said the exact same thing. They didn't skip a beat going over there. They may not have made more, but they said they certainly didn't make less.

CloudSailor

Yeah, senior captains can. Re-read what I wrote. I'm including $45k/yr of TAX FREE housing allowance.

Do the math. Or, talk to guys who've done it, like Sluggo_63 has.

Albief15

More importanly Cloud, how was the skiing? I lived 2 years in Germany but was TDY 100+ days a year and was busy in a fighter squadron when I was there before. Trying it out with a few more days off a month and no additpnal duties has some appeal.

Pakagecheck

Guess the guys I know aren't the "most senior" over there cause they aren't. The most senior in any seat can always maximize their pay. I get the 45k offsets the pay diff (295 vs 254). However your misconception is that they are the highest paid in the company. No comparison. There are some in HKG swinging big but 777 takes the cake hands down(some 11 folks are doing quite well also) and not just "the most senior" and not just a few. I get your point, I'm just correcting the facts so some don't think if they go over there, its the richest seat in the house.

CloudSailor

Yeah, I hate to admit it, but we passed on some phenomenal crews & families ski trips. Our son's age at the time had us changing our winter priorities to being in southern Spain, Greece and Italy - not complaining

If you're thinking of bidding it Albie, there were a couple of guys who had a winter condo in Verbier, and their life there was all about skiing the Alps. Phenomenal.

CloudSailor

You're right, 777 guys take the cake. I could've been more clear.

But 757 senior captains (25+ years) I flew with told me that they'd never made more in any left WB seat in MEM/ANC than in NB CGN (none were coming from the 777 though, big difference). I take them at their word. And yeah, maybe not the most $ of all seats, but for guys considering bidding over on this bid, it is a phenomenal opportunity, and very well paid, despite it being NB. IMO.

PicklePausePull

Looking at the lines, many with 3 legs and a sit for the sort, are non-senior CA's finding the pay isn't worth the jump?

Albief15

At some point it may be an option. With a wife well into Cantonese lessons and a daughter who is doing extremely well in a great school, I think I am anchored a while. I enjoy a lot about HK, except the lack of skiing. Yeah....New Zealand, Japan, etc...I know I know--but it takes a lot of logistics. Loading up the SUV and driving down four to six hours away on days off has a tremendous appeal. Until then--its jetting back to the states with an Epic pass and making it happen around the Rockies.

I get the kids thing. We had two under 5 when we lived in Germany 96-98, and that keeps your radius small for trips as things can go south quickly.

One more FDA input--FDA can be a plus, but if your spouse does have to give up a job the gain can be washed out. In our case wife had stepped back from her career, so a non-factor for us. If any spouse is interested in working in Hong Kong, watching folks leave work at 7-8 PM every night to the ferries and MTRs might soften some of that enthusiasm.