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01-22-2017, 07:59 AM

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pinseeker

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Originally Posted by Dash8Guy

On the application:

"Total hours of IFR Certified (Instrument Rating) experience"

Are they looking for time in actual IFR conditions or the general hours after I received my instrument rating?

Thanks for the help.

I would only count hours that were logged under an IFR flight plan. If you filed VFR while IFR certified, I wouldn't count the VFR hours.

Who actually tracks IMC time. The military doesn't. FedEx doesn't. I've never seen anyone actually write down the time that they entered and exited the clouds, not even when I flew with the guy wearing the kimono.

01-22-2017, 08:54 AM

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Vital Signs

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Originally Posted by pinseeker

We feel quite differently then because i have never heard of anyone logging time they are under an IFR flight plan.....sounds ridiculous.
Who cares if you know how to file a flight plan?

There is a space in pilot log books for Actual IFR time...and simulated IFR time(foggles)

01-22-2017, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Vital Signs

IFR = Instrument Flight Rules
IMC = Instrument Meteorological Conditions
VFR = Visual Flight Rules

If you are IFR and see a non-hazardous cloud, do you climb or turn without notifying the controller, or do you usually fly though it?

If you are VFR, are you allowed to fly through it?

01-22-2017, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by pinseeker

Who actually tracks IMC time. The military doesn't.

The Air Force does.

01-22-2017, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by kme9418

The Air Force does.

Like I said, the military doesn't

01-22-2017, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by pinseeker

Like I said, the military doesn't

...you're really smart. Thank you for your contribution to this thread. I look forward to your next post.

01-22-2017, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyPurple

...you're really smart. Thank you for your contribution to this thread. I look forward to your next post.

Now now, according to most Navy guys if you aren't hot bunking (wink, wink) you aren't military. Don't be so sensitive.

01-22-2017, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyPurple

...you're really smart. Thank you for your contribution to this thread. I look forward to your next post.

Thank you. Can you tell me how the Air Force tracks IMC time? Does the plane log the time that you are in the clouds or does the pilot have to do that?

Seriously, I would like to know how you track IMC vs VMC vs IFR vs VFR.

01-22-2017, 02:22 PM

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How do you track IPT? ( Inflight Pajama Time)

01-22-2017, 02:52 PM

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DirtyPurple

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Originally Posted by pinseeker

You're welcome. AF tracks both instrument & simulated instrument time, and there's a reg that governs the rules for how do correctly document all flight time. Basically anytime the instruments are the primary flight reference (i.e. I can't see the ground), it's instrument time. Flying an instrument approach in VMC is simulated instrument conditions.

But I realize that other career paths do things differently. For an AF guy, it's pretty simple to prove time in instrument conditions. I don't have a background in civilian aviation, so I can't speak to that, but I can understand how the OP has questions on how to present a defendable number at an interview.